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Originally Posted by quicksilverdon
You guys crack me up. Everything is Clinton's fault, yet when it's pointed out that Bush screwed up big time by claiming there were WMDS, you trot out that Clinton thought so, too. Which is it? Clinton is an authority, or he's the devil and anything he said was not be be believed.
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I never said anything was Clinton's fault. Neither Clinton nor Bush were doing the actual intelligence gathering, it was the FBI and CIA but both were too damn stubborn and/or stupid to fully share info. Neither Clinton nor Bush (or any President before them) did anything about that. It's the whole damn system that's breaking down, not just whether a Democrat or Republican is in the White House. The dems just have a version of buyers remorse after they all agreed to the war in the first place. Now they're playing it to their advantage because, of course, the public is fickle and tires of hearing stories of soldiers dying. And if you're honest about it all, you know full well that had Gore been in office and we went to war, the reps would be doing the exact same thing right now.
Everybody has a personal agenda (listen to H. Clinton and Obama being totally non committal on troop withdrawal if they win the election, after months of screaming that Bush needs to get our troops out ASAP). Everybody points fingers at everyone else to divert scrutiny away from them. Look at New Orleans/Katrina. Sure, the Bush admin screwed up, and big time, but the dems would have us believe that GW himself should have written a plan for evacuating the city and that the dems in control of state and local gov't had no culpability. Give me a freakin' break!!! The dems will forgive their own, regardless of the indiscretion (Ray Nagin screwed up about as big as a person can in his capacity yet he gets re-elected and Marion Barry....well, what can I say??) but vilify a republican at every turn. The reps aren't any better in this regard. Both sides spend more damn time digging for dirt to make their rivals look bad than they do trying to fix the real problems in this great land.
Frankly, I'm sick and tired of the polarization that continues to worsen in this country. Nobody sees shades of gray any more, it's all black & white and the world just doesn't work that way. Unless and until that gets sorted out, we're not going to fix a hell of a lot that's really wrong.