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Old 16 Jan 2008, 07:43 am
oldfashionedgent oldfashionedgent is offline
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Default Re: Skip stage 1 and go directly to stage 2?

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Originally Posted by Dream4 View Post
I am not sure about the Trans won't take it line, as to why they did not make a Stage 2 for the PT, as if you have a '05 or newer and add Stage 1, you are actuatly are getting the So called Stage 2 power levels. For '05 and up you upgrade to 235hp 275 ft-lbs torque measured at the Wheels.
The original Stage kits up to and including '04 were measured at the crank, you have 10 to 15% loss with a 5 speed manual trans and 20% with the auto trans.

The original specs in the '04 Mopar manual are:
Stage 1 235 hp 240ft-lbs
Stage 2 260 hp 280 ft-lbs
Stage 2 with toys (SRT4 only) 265 hp 280 ft-lbs
Stage 2 (High Octane Mode) 280 hp 300 ft-lbs
Stage 3R (SRT4 only) 310 hp 325 ft-lbs
Stage 3R (SRT4 only Hi Octane Mode) 355 hp 365 ft-lbs

With the '05 and up measured at the wheels at least 5 of us over on PT Crew have dyno'd our cars, (mine just this past Saturday) and we all made 235 +/-5 whp 290 to 305 ft-lbs torque to the wheels, now if you add back in the trans losses 20% for the auto you have 282 hp at the crank, 360 ft lbs at the crank.

So for the '05 and newer with Stage 1 and a free flow exhaust and take the restrictions out of the stock air box and intake tube you are past the original PT and SRT4 Stage 2 specs.

Now I will not go any higher until I have my auto trans upgraded for more power.
Thanks so much for the info!
I am planing on getting a free flow exhaust, down pipe, up pipe and a k&n cone filter intake.
Along with new plugs, whires, WGA, trottle body spacer, BOV conversion kit and intake manifold heat sheild.
But what about fuel injectors?
The stage 1 only has them for the 2003 model!
I was just going to get them sepretly with the stage 1 then I saw a stage 2 for the SRT that came with injectors so I though I would try and do that, I guess I should just go with my original plans.
And dont tell me that the stock injectors are more than I need because I need more power!!! Arr arr arr
I was planing on getting my injectors at RC something like...

Flow Rate - LB's:
35 LBS / HR @ 43.5 PSI

I was looking at the peak & hold but I am not sure which whould be better, the peak and hold or the saturated.
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