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Old 03 Mar 2009, 05:09 pm
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Default Re: HID Conversion Kits

I guess I don't understand why a car would "stop the power flow to the lights" of the bulb was burnt out?

Basically the power flows from + to - through the halogen (in this case) bulb and there is some current loss due to the heat of the filament. If the bulb burns out then the power loss going through the headlight would be zero nil - because the circuit is now open due to the burned out filament.....or am I thinking of this backwards?

Anyway the other thing I was thinking about is the fact taht OEM cars with HID lights have a special projector lens vs. the PT with reflector type lenses. This means you won't have the focused beam you would get with OEM HID on your aftermarket kit.

I searched for aftermarket PT headlights with projector lenses and found one place that listed them, but not actually apparently for sale.

Then I found this link: High Intensity Discharge (HID) Headlights

<Here is a snip from the web page>

NHTSA Cracks Down on Aftermarket HID Conversion Kits

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) is targeting high-intensity discharge (HID) conversion kits for enforcement actions. NHTSA has concluded that it is impossible to produce HID conversion kits (converting a halogen system to HID) that would be compliant with the federal lighting standard, Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) No. 108. The noncompliant kits frequently include a HID bulb, a ballast, an igniter, a relay and wiring harness adapters. The NHTSA believes this equipment presents a safety risk to the public since the kits can be expected to produce excessive glare to oncoming motorists. In one investigation, the NHTSA found that an HID conversion headlamp exceeded the maximum allowable candlepower by over 800%.

Under FMVSS No. 108 Section S7.7 (replaceable light sources), each replaceable light source for headlamps must be designed to conform to the dimensions and electrical specifications for the headlamp source it is intended to replace. For example, if an HID kit is marketed as replacing an H1 light source, then it must match the H1's wire coil filament size and location, the electrical connector size and location and the ballast design for use with an H1 light source (which is impossible since there is no ballast). Consequently, companies that are manufacturing HID light sources (e.g., D1S, D1R, D2S, D2R, 9500, etc�) with incandescent light source bases (e.g., H1, H3, H7, H8, H9, H11, H13, HB1, HB2, HB3, HB4, HB5, etc�) should be aware that this light source design would not be one that conforms to FMVSS No. 108, and could not be imported and sold in the United States without violating Federal law. (The importer is treated as the manufacturer and subject to the same fines and penalties that apply to a domestic manufacturer.)

NHTSA has also determined that a commonly used disclaimer "for off-road use only" has no legal meaning and is not recognized by the agency as the manufacturer, importer and retailer are not in a position to control use once a product has been sold. Any equipment offered for sale which is covered by FMVSS No. 108 (headlamps, taillamps, side markers, etc.) must comply with the standard
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So now I'm thinking the standard conversion to HID bulbs on stock PT lamps is inviting a ticket from Grandpa who wants you to "get off his lawn" or cops with nothing better to do.

If I do the conversion I may have to add some black out stripes on the upper portion of the lights to reduce glare....

Do you have any experience with this?

Curiously,

Tom
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