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Originally Posted by CYCLONE_06
Ive done my research. Thats why im not interested in the Stage 1. The install is a pain in the ass, the tranny learning process is a pain in the ass. You also didnt mention how your mpg's drop, and gas prices these days do you really want that ? Oh, and dont forget how most of the auto guys have tranny problems after putting stage 1 in 
Just saying, theres two sides to every coin. Im sure the 30 hp and the shift points are fun, but, there are drawbacks.
~CYCLONE_06 |
You just listed that 30HP wasn't worth it, I wanted to give a little more info than just a number there is an entire range of things an S1 changes for the better.
You think the tranny learn is a PITA?
Lazy man just lazy. You count, drive and watch your speedo - such hard work. Hard work and 15min time. I did one two weeks ago when we put LiquidPT's car back to stock. Or you pay a dealer $70 for an hours time and they program it. I think one can spare 15-20min?
The injector swap for an 03 isn't fun, but if you make the project worth the time you swap out the metal manifold for the plastic manifold and you just upped your HP more and got rid of a little weight and some heat all in one shot. I will give you this is a PITA job for a novice.
Trans issues have mostly been figured out - don't boost in O/D. You have an auto-stick - drop a gear and hammer it. Doesn't matter if you are S1 or not don't boost in O/D period that is what kills tranny's.
MPG?? that can be argued by a lot of us.. Mostly your MPG figures drop since you can't keep your foot out of it, since you changed the entire attitude of the car. Myself I can get easily in the 20's with an S1 or I can do single digits just depends on how heavy I want my right foot. Gary04GT will say his MPG got better after an S1 install and he's no leadfoot, he just does what he does.
It still comes down to a all-around package for the PT the S1 does a lot. The predator can't do what S1 does, a combination of other mods can't do what S1 does. Its also at this point tried and true, reliable and you know for sure what you are getting when you bolt it in.