[macster]

quote:Originally posted by ptgtcb

If PVO would have designed the system to pass CARB in the first place we would not be having this conversation and do not tell me it was not possible or expensive, we do it every day and we do not have all the Factory engineering sitting in front of us, we have to disect the ECU, which can cost some money. All the original R&D should have included CARB exemption. Apparently the Stage I PCM is not OBD II compliant and the stage I-II-III........ Were never intended to be emissions legal from the start and easily could have been. My guess is there was a rush to market it.
What I now ask is why the original B.S. I received from TurboG and BJ@DCX that the kits were pending CARB approval when all along they were never designed to be and never could be! For a company not to be able to see the benefits to emissions legal performance parts is uncomprehensible,stuuupid.
Those of you who say well don't buy it are missing the point, we could have had the same performance and be emissions compliant if PVO would have took the initiative, not the shortcut. Could have been the best of both worlds, instead the best of no worlds.

Yeah yeah yeah yeah, blah blah. Sorry Bro, but we've been there done that, seen it read that. It's time to move on. No disrespect intended, but this warranty/Carb implementation/compliance ain't gonna happen. It's sorta like everyone loving his neighbor as his self. It's a wonderful to have, but it ain't gonna happen. Life is like that, deal with it, and move on. I feel for you folks that have warranty/carbphobia, but now that we heard it numerous times, it's starting to be very annoying. It appears that everytime we get a good post going, someone, has gotta start waah waahing about the warranty/CARB issue. Bottom line, I'm rolling the dice, if I roll snake eyes then its on me. But the dealership will lose my business. (yup the loss of the one car that I purchase every 6 years will put them under) Again the point of my topic/post was to get people to see that the DCX PVO team is putting a lot of engineering behind these MODs. For instance the testing under extreme conditions, wow that is good stuff. Sorta like fatigue tests in my business. You test it till fails and then you fix it and test it again. That stuff costs money and takes talent. Maybe we could start another topic named people who are not concerned with the Stage(*)warranty/CARB issue and who don't want to hear about it any more. Well I'm done and I apologize if I offended anyone, I'll take my beating like a man.

macster