madmartin, WELCOME [^] to the Forum. I can feel your pain as I lived in Michigan most of my life. NEVER had a set of chains, did have snow tires for some vehicles. I always carried a set of strap on chains for when I needed them. I did use them a couple of times, I bet that right now you couldn't find any chains in Oreagon!!! I think I bought mine in late spring for the first year. GOOD LUCK
