hey gary....

[Punch]

I had an old pontiac 6000, it was white but kinda looked like it was yellow'ing, an old friend ran a detail shop and he said, they used a type of pain thinner to bring the paint bake to the original color, any truth to this, and what would the long term effects be of thinning the paint????


p.s. when they were done, the car looked show room new, in and out, smelled great and they even detailed the engine bay...

[Punch]

holy spelling errors bat man.....

[IRPT]

quote:Originally posted by Punch

holy spelling errors bat man.....

LOL

[turbomangt]

Hey Punch, the old cars with single stage paint could be thinned as your friend said, their was much more surface to work with. I would not attempt that without using a paint thickness meter though. All the solvent did was removed some of the oxidation. I'm sure they followed it up with a polish, before the finish coat. Gary

[R.E.]

Gary I've got one for you. Is there any way to clean off specks of water based paint off the car finish? (not on my Cruiser, thank God)

Just thought of another one. What's the best method to use in removing the dealership decal from the car? It's on the deck lid. Thanks for any help.

[IRPT]

R.E. I can answer one of your questions. To remove the dealer decal use a hair dryer to warm it up and then peel it off. Some have been able to just peel the sticker off without heating. If you have any residue left over use lighter fluid to remove the goo.

[turbomangt]

RE, you bring up a great question and one that is a real problem. Recently I have had more than a few cars come in with "road paint". This stuff is Epoxy based. designed for LONG TERM DURABILITY on the streets, When this stuff gets on a cars finish, and sets itself up, its bad news. Most paint is not so bad to removed if you get to it with 24 hours, but any longer than that, and you need time/chemicals and elbow grease. The water based stuff I would try solvent base paint remover designed for automotive finishes. For Expoxy I have to use acid. I NEVER use acid on a finish unless it is extreme conditions, and have wasted all other options. YOu need to wear a mask/ gloves, and have good ventilation. Also you have to neutralize the PH level after you use it. When Epoxy gets in the wheels wells, the only option is to repaint them. I use heavy duty rubbized under coating paint.
For sticker removal IRPT gave good advice. Use lots of librication as you are rubbing, otherwise not only will the sticker come off, you will scratch the finish as well. I like to use a piece of dental floss once it is heated, get it behind the decal and gently pull the floss under it. I bug sponge also works with soap/ and or solvent.

[R.E.]

Gary and IRPT thanks a lot for the information. Looks like removing the dealership decal won't be that hard. The water based paint that I'm talking about is exterior house paint. I was painting my house a few months ago, working with a roller on the end of the house. My car was around the corner under the carport. The wind came up pretty good and I guess was blowing the paint (like dust particles) all over my car. I'll try the solvent based paint remover designed for automotive finishes like you suggested. I guess a body shop would be the best place to find it? Thanks again, I appreciate the information guys.

[bobs turbo pt]

"holy spelling errors bat man"

[turbomangt]

R.E, try a clay bar as well. auto zone or pep boys should have it, let me know if you need help using one. I think I have that tip posted on LInks home page. USE LOTS OF LUBRICATION/ soap and detail spray/ Good luck. Gary