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Old 21 Mar 2017, 09:12 am
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Yeah. My 05 base just has the plugs and nothing else. Your not alone.
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Old 21 Mar 2017, 10:42 am
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Evoscouter. You mentioned you've acquired a fog light harness. I found referring to the down load about the fog light circuitry sanatadharma supplied, helpful information. It's a Chrysler document I relied on as I corrected SOOO BIG's fog light problems last year.

With the whole kit, including a replacement fog light harness as you mention I'd suggest just installing it in totality to acquire fog light function. The document shows the placement and routing of the harness. Even down to snaking it through the firewall. It's a bit of work but would allow you to insure everything is connected to achieve function both under dash and under hood. During my pursuit to fog light function I traced back to ground points on the inner side of the drivers side front fender. SOOO BIG had the complete harness from the factory but short sections of it were burnt out and had to be found and rectified.

I've constructed complete wire looms during some of my restoration project. Having a dedicated harness is a luxury. SOOO BIG's real happy with his fog lights. Good luck with you worth while project.

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Old 21 Mar 2017, 04:27 pm
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... I am hoping to find that chrysler conveniently brought the fog plug wire/wires all the way into the car....
The front lighting harness is one unit. The harness contains all the wiring from (and including) the two large connectors under the dash (C105 & C106), out to all front electrical systems.

This front harness includes the PDC (power distribution center) and all of the connectors for wipers, front lights, fogs, horns, cruise control, ambient air temperature sensor (more).

There are different harnesses (and parts numbers) for manual and automatic transmission cars and for different options. There are also several different dash harness part numbers.

The opposite end of the light-blue power wire at the fog light connectors, is at the C106 connector under the dash. The dash harness connects to this connector.

It is your dash harness that needs DIY wiring to duplicate the missing circuits as described in my earlier post. I suspect that if you put 12 volts to the light-blue wire pin at the C106 connector, your fog lights will illuminate.
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Old 23 Mar 2017, 11:36 pm
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Sorry been very busy the last few days, I am going to tackle this over the coming weekend. C106 does appear to be the place to look according to the service manual wiring diagrams. thanks again for everyones ideas. I will keep you posted.
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Sorry been very busy the last few days, I am going to tackle this over the coming weekend. C106 does appear to be the place to look according to the service manual wiring diagrams. thanks again for everyones ideas. I will keep you posted.
UPDATE.... All done, C106 gray/black locking lever. Lt Blue wire in position 1. Ran the chrysler ad-on harness as install instructions directed with one mod. instead of running through the firewall I simply did the interior portion and tied into the pre-wire that chrysler did.
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 05:36 am
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Interesting addition to this thread, which I think is related....

My 2001 Touring came with fogs installed and we're unsure if they were factory or not. They seem wired as factory parts anyway. For some reason we found an additional switch fitted under the wheel in the lower dash cover with a fog symbol, which was weird. They don't work anyway. Not via the stalk or that weird switch, which ended up not being wired to anything anyway.

Whilst fault-finding our fan, I checked by the fuses and decided to look at the default fuse position for the fogs (#8). So there's a fuse in there and it looks like the correct value, but not an original. It's also flopping about like anything, as though there are no contacts in there to retain it.

Does this give any clues on what's happening here? Sounds to me that the jumpers with contacts weren't installed into the fuse block. Still not entirely clear whether it's some kind of screwed up repair of factory equipment or a botched install of a MOPAR kit.
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Interesting addition to this thread, which I think is related....

My 2001 Touring came with fogs installed and we're unsure if they were factory or not. They seem wired as factory parts anyway. For some reason we found an additional switch fitted under the wheel in the lower dash cover with a fog symbol, which was weird. They don't work anyway. Not via the stalk or that weird switch, which ended up not being wired to anything anyway.

Whilst fault-finding our fan, I checked by the fuses and decided to look at the default fuse position for the fogs (#8). So there's a fuse in there and it looks like the correct value, but not an original. It's also flopping about like anything, as though there are no contacts in there to retain it.

Does this give any clues on what's happening here? Sounds to me that the jumpers with contacts weren't installed into the fuse block. Still not entirely clear whether it's some kind of screwed up repair of factory equipment or a botched install of a MOPAR kit.
Go this website and get the Build Sheet for your PT and see if it says anything about the fog lights as being installed from the factory when the vehicle was built:

https://www.dodge.com/webselfservice/dodge/index.html

On the left hand side under YOUR VEHICLE click on Equipment Listing, then enter the vehicle VIN in the white box and click on the red Search box.
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 08:42 am
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Amazing, thanks @rckstein. The car is currently having a nice relaxing coolant flush and system cleanout so I'll have a look into this tomorrow. I'm thinking that the fogs were added by somebody with little clue on what they were doing....hopefully it's just a case of me picking up where they left off and not having to repair any "choices" made....
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Amazing, thanks @rckstein. The car is currently having a nice relaxing coolant flush and system cleanout so I'll have a look into this tomorrow. I'm thinking that the fogs were added by somebody with little clue on what they were doing....hopefully it's just a case of me picking up where they left off and not having to repair any "choices" made....
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Old 19 Jul 2017, 12:48 pm
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I forgot to mention that I'd already come across that in a previous post. We're currently fault-finding a fan issue (yeah....that....) but we'll be looking into what happened here with the fogs in due course.

FWIW, this is what my VIN pull came up with:

https://www.dodge.com/webselfservice...FYNB9X1T503075

....is there a policy on posting VINs? Can't see why since they're as public as the colour or number of wheels.

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Sounds like somebody has been performing some silly buggery with my fogs (whilst it wasn't mine yet). Inconsiderate SOBs.
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