pteazer roll pan .... geesh

[slayerdarkcross]

I do kinda find it unfair to judge one company for a product that alot more companies have tried to copy. Especially since the PT Cruiser is not alone when it comes to rollpans being made for vehicles.

Certainly you don't have to buy a rollpan to be different as there are plenty of stock fitting options. So to judge a single product is ridiculous when that is one of a few options given to you. As a consumer its your job to research and evaluate anything you purchase.

[CREWZIN]

My $.02. I work for the Sheriff's Office here in Florida 3 days a week. One of my main calls (when nobody is severely injured) is road and parking lot crashes. The full Deputies or Highway Patrol take the severe ones. I carry a small digital camera along with me to take pictures of damage because I also give out citations to who's ever at fault in the crash and some of take it (me) to court to fight the citation.

Now "motorvating" wants to put things in perspective but he doesn't see all that's going on. Even with my 3 days out of 7 days a week on the job, I run out of the 20 digital pictures before my 3 days are up.

Maybe it's because there are so many older drivers here in Florida, I can't say but I do know there's probably half a dozen crash calls a day and the vast majority of them, somebody got hit in the rear.

[Pteazer]

Thanks to all the folks that commented on my Pteazer roll pan.first lets address the safety I do take offence to the absolute hammering I got from some one but I realise there are allways going to be some none fans out there. obviously the reinforcement on the rear cant do anything to protect the rear hatch in an accident as it fits flush with the hatch.So you will get damage to the hatch,this may be of concern if you have a fancy murial painted on the rear or something.but normally if you get hit from behind the other guys insurance has to put the car back to pre collision condition includeing the paint .Ok the reinforcement bar on the Pteazer reinforcement cant protect the taigate but it does tie the two rails together which does help some,however if someone can think of a better way im open to listening.as fare as I know mine are the only ones that come with any reinforcement of any kind?Next the price ,yes its not cheep,I am trying to keep my parts manufactureing done in USA which is allmost impossible to do anymore.It costs allmost ten times more to make stuff here insted of China.Am I the last blanking person left that cares about trying to keep American Qaulity? and jobs. I hope not because I actually think its chicken sh t to send all our manufactureing away to save a buck.For the one guy that mentioned the safty concernes I have had more than 37 years of collision experiance includeing the last nine on Pt cruisers exclusivly.I have seen hundreds of crashed cruisers through my shop and every single insurance adjuster has been impressed by the way my parts held up . I allso have been a seriuos racer for many many years and have the utmost concern for safty.in another posting I will cover my fronts and how when Chevy wanted a reinforcement for the SSR they did acactly the same as my smoothie front reinfocement only they stacked two on top of each other but went with a much smaller diamiter tube as the Pteazer one was over kill. Im sure they did all the expensive crash testing and decided to go with it so thats a pretty good indorsement where I come from.Bye the way there is a economic stimulas sale and if anyone wants to contact me I will give you my new prices 714 448 8630 Ray Newton Pteazer.

[ChefTank]

To support ray (pteazer)

It is a roll pan not a brush guard. Most show items are not going to increase they safety of a vehicle and if they are they are advertised that way. If you live your life worried about getting into a crash then trade your PT in for a volvo.
Never once do i pull out of the drive way and think "is today the day?" no!!!! i get in, crank it up, spool the turbo, annoy the neighbors, and enjoy the ride. Don't try and make something universal particular on one product or one company. If it's not for you don't buy it! each consumer is responsible for their own research into each product they purchase.

COP: wow! thats a bad rear ender
PT Driver: well the guys on the forum said it was safe....
COP: O, the bumper was a gift?
PT Driver: no i bought it.
COP: Then why are you blaming someone else?



It may or maynot be safe, but each person is responsible to themselves and their own decisions. if you don't want it, don't bitch and the price. if you have not owned it and had a crash with it, don't complain about the "safety" of it.




Josh * stepping off my soap box*

[Pteazer]

Thanks Josh, Im just a car guy trying to make some parts that everyone can enjouy instead of only the ones that can come to me .Keep on Cruizing.Ray Newton.

[ChefTank]

Originally Posted by Pteazer

Thanks Josh, Im just a car guy trying to make some parts that everyone can enjouy instead of only the ones that can come to me .Keep on Cruizing.Ray Newton.

Hakuna Matata, Join us @ PTCrew.com there are alot of cool folks over there (not saying they aren't here)


Speed Safe

Josh


PS- how much for a 4door truck conversion? that sh!t looks sweet!

[Pteazer]

Listen, Im just trying to give people a chance to get some cool looking parts on there cars without having to bring there cars to me. And I would like to meet the person who has invested more than me to help promote the Pt cruiser. I really cant beleive I have to defend my self for it .Hey! If you dont want good qaulity made in USA parts , fine dont buy them and thats it .But dont take the fun out of it for the rest of us that want to get happy when they look at there car . Keep on cruizin Ray Newton ,Pteazer.

[PT_Cuda]

Originally Posted by Cartman

ok, im going to jump in here. on the fit of the pteazer roll pan, YEs, they are one of the nicest fitting bumper covers out there, only slight cleanup needed for nice fitment. but, I would NEVER put one of these on my PT. ALL of the collision information given on their website is total and complete bull and will probably cost someone their life, at least their car. do not believe that replacing an engineered reinforcement with absorber that is designed to absorb collison engery with a 1INCH DIAMETER STEEL PIPE is a good thing. the bar sits further in than the liftgate, meaning that the reinforcement will not protect the liftgate as mentioned in thier site. if you install this, be aware that in a rear end collision, even a light one, your car will suffer ALOT more damage than with a factory bumper setup. rear body panel replacements and liftgates are not CHEAP on these cars. If i could, I would have their collision information BANNED from the internet and replaced with a WARNING about increased damage potential and increased risk on injury. as for the front bumperette kits......death trap. removing the front reinforcement affects AIRBAG TIMING, meaning that you will bounce off your steering wheel before or after the airbag goes off in the event of a front end collision. the 1 INCH STEEL BAR does NOT negate the damage like they claim it does. sorry to go off like this, but being a collision tech, i have to sound the warning bell when something aint kosher.

The stock bumper isn't rated for anything over 5mph so you are screwed either way..

When you get rear ended at anything over 10mph it doesn't matter rollpan or not its going to mess up the rear frame and get into the floor pan of the car.

Lets get down to reality, you want to scare people fine, but how about telling them the stocker isn't worth a hill of beans either in a real world crash.

Or when you get hit by an SUV it is going to go OVER the rear bumper anyways and hit the hatch and enter the trunk so the rear bumper don't matter there either, and I have the pics of my accidents to prove that.

You don't need scare people..

<off soapbox>

[PT_Cuda]

Originally Posted by Pteazer

Listen, Im just trying to give people a chance to get some cool looking parts on there cars without having to bring there cars to me. And I would like to meet the person who has invested more than me to help promote the Pt cruiser. I really cant beleive I have to defend my self for it .Hey! If you dont want good qaulity made in USA parts , fine dont buy them and thats it .But dont take the fun out of it for the rest of us that want to get happy when they look at there car . Keep on cruizin Ray Newton ,Pteazer.

No worries Ray

Keep your chin up. Some of us have your back in a big way

[Pteazer]

Thanks heaps Cuda, I guess you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink. Some times I Probably take this all a bit to personal aye. But after seeing this whole pt crazyness start with the hot rod power tour in 2000 , and getting Chryslers design exellence award in 2001, and having the origonal pattent for the rollpan design that by rights I SHOULD HAVE STOPPED ALL OF THESE IMPOSTERS THAT HAVE KNOCKED OFF MY DESIGNS since day one. Ask the compertition how many UK manufacturer of the year awards they have received? and how many UK best of shows there customers have won. Sorry man I guess Im still a little wond up. I should stop while Im ahead,thanks again Ray Pteazer.