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Old 12 May 2009, 03:44 pm
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Hi,
It's been a while since I've been here. I have a question for this group as you are all so knowledgeable.
2 1/2 weeks ago I noticed my drivers side floor was wet. My interior is beige and when I bought the car new in Feb 08 with 300 miles on it I have the original car mats down, a braided rug and then rubber mats over the top of that to keep the beige carpet clean. I'm the only one who drives the car besides the service guys. I'm 49. No kids are ever in the car. Anyway I couldn't figure out how my rug got wet when I went to vacuum the car before a trip to Indiana but I let them dry and put them back in. A week later I went to put something in the back and the whole back floor board drivers side was soaked as was the front underneath all my rugs. I mean when I pulled the rugs and mats out water ran off them. I soaked up as much as I could ran the heater and left the car in the sun trying to get it dried. I took it in to the service dept thinking the air conditioner drain was clogged or something. It wasn't. They told me I needed to make an appointment with the body shop which is tomorrow, that maybe the car shifted around a seam (? yes that is what they said) or the seal around the windshield went bad (no air sound). I talked to my nephew in laws Sunday and one asked if I took it in for service recently...yes a week or so before the first water incident. They thought maybe they checked the cabin air filter and didn't get it sealed back and with all the heavy rains we've had (ALOT!!) and my car sits out that the rain came in some how. The water did not smell so I know its not something with chemicals.
Anyway I thought I would see what you all think. I'm worried it will get moldy under the carpet as I don't have a shop vac. I wish they would shampoo and clean the carpet or replace it. I try to keep my car in mint condition.
My PT is a 2006 Touring that just turned to 25,000 miles.
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Old 12 May 2009, 04:49 pm
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Hi,
It's been a while since I've been here. I have a question for this group as you are all so knowledgeable.
2 1/2 weeks ago I noticed my drivers side floor was wet. My interior is beige and when I bought the car new in Feb 08 with 300 miles on it I have the original car mats down, a braided rug and then rubber mats over the top of that to keep the beige carpet clean. I'm the only one who drives the car besides the service guys. I'm 49. No kids are ever in the car. Anyway I couldn't figure out how my rug got wet when I went to vacuum the car before a trip to Indiana but I let them dry and put them back in. A week later I went to put something in the back and the whole back floor board drivers side was soaked as was the front underneath all my rugs. I mean when I pulled the rugs and mats out water ran off them. I soaked up as much as I could ran the heater and left the car in the sun trying to get it dried. I took it in to the service dept thinking the air conditioner drain was clogged or something. It wasn't. They told me I needed to make an appointment with the body shop which is tomorrow, that maybe the car shifted around a seam (? yes that is what they said) or the seal around the windshield went bad (no air sound). I talked to my nephew in laws Sunday and one asked if I took it in for service recently...yes a week or so before the first water incident. They thought maybe they checked the cabin air filter and didn't get it sealed back and with all the heavy rains we've had (ALOT!!) and my car sits out that the rain came in some how. The water did not smell so I know its not something with chemicals.
Anyway I thought I would see what you all think. I'm worried it will get moldy under the carpet as I don't have a shop vac. I wish they would shampoo and clean the carpet or replace it. I try to keep my car in mint condition.
My PT is a 2006 Touring that just turned to 25,000 miles.
Any ideas appreciated!
Thanks!
Jolie
Btw US issue PT's don't have cabin filters, its a parts department order and after the fact install. They are standard on Export PT's. There is no other reason to open the wiper cowl on these cars other than that cabin filter.

I'm in the pacific north west and I get pine needles all the time so just go with me on this.

Umm check all the door jams for pine needles or other muck, I park outside year round and they get clogged up and water can run to other places if there path is blocked up. Also pop the hood and check that the cowl(the big plastic part the wipers stick out of is tight under the windshield, pushing and pulling a bit will tell you. Also look to see that its smooth across, its two pieces and if they are not installed correctly water can get in easy. Also check that it is clear of pine needles or other muck.

Use towels and soak up as much as possible, if you can park it where windows are open great. When driving keep the vents open and flowing on floor setting helps lots.

Sounds like a seal gone bad truthfully.. Do you have a sunroof? I know its strange they can leak and they do have drain tubes that run down the pillars up front.
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Old 12 May 2009, 05:29 pm
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Hi Joile Girl and welcome back. Use a air hose and blow out all of the drain lines from the sunroof drain lines (2) and the drains under the hood left/right where rain should run out of, they are located in little wells about 1" diameter.
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Old 12 May 2009, 05:43 pm
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Thanks for all the suggestions, no sunroof though. I'm going to go lift the hood and look around. My nephew in laws thought maybe there was a cabin filter, they didn't look at my car and aren't familiar with PTs but I was kinda hoping it was that simple I'll see what I can see. I drop it off on my way to work.
I did soak up as much water as I could with towels and tried to dry it out. Tonight when I got in it after it sitting all day windows up after the carpool dropped me off it kinda smelled alittle musty
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Old 12 May 2009, 07:04 pm
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Ok, I've been out looking at everything.....could this be it??

I open the drivers door and look there is an accordiaon hose that is loose and I can see in the hole where the "plug" at the end of the hose should be and can see wiring inside there. I opened the passenger door to compare and the accordion hose on that door the plug on the end is sealed tight inside the door frame. Could rain be getting in there? Since it's where the door opens? Maybe running down and getting in that hole? What would that wiring be? I'm curious because I'm having issues once in awhile with my outside temperature reading on the gauge on the dash.....sometimes it won't read the temp, just dashes and then if it finally starts reading the number starts real low and cycles one number at a time up to what the outside temp is and gets slower and slower til it gets there. I mentioned this to the service department and they had never came across this. Now it makes me wonder if the wiring is getting wet....
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Old 12 May 2009, 08:24 pm
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Hi Joile Girl and welcome back. Use a air hose and blow out all of the drain lines from the sunroof drain lines (2) and the drains under the hood left/right where rain should run out of, they are located in little wells about 1" diameter.
Agree. They are up near the windshield, far back, and can get clogged.
If not, seal at base of windshield could be leaking...

The "bellows" with wires in them isn't your problem, and overhead temp wires don't go thru door.

Could also be when you had your car serviced some klutz knocked a bottle of water over and didn't say anything....

I'd say put newspaper on the floor, run a hose on base of windshield, and see when papers get wet.

How is the rubber seal on the door? If rain was wind-driven, could've worked it's way in.
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Old 12 May 2009, 08:48 pm
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I'd bet a dollar to a doughnut that the bellows being loose on the drivers side is where your water leak is. The cabin air filter is an option but it is on the passenger side. Water leaks are a very uncommon happening.
As for the temperature gauge... That's not uncommon. My 06 does it every once in a while. I think there may be a computer update for this but I'm not sure.
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Old 13 May 2009, 01:06 am
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The wiring is for you power door locks/windows/speakers. They always get wet, fact of life since the window goes up down and water drips down. So don't panic over the door rubber yet.

The seal to be concerened about is the big rubber one that goes around the door attached to the car, its the one that keeps out the water.

I second the sunroof drain lines.

Please post a pic of the stuff your drivers door is missing we can compare to ours and tell if its normal or not. Sometimes things are not symetrical.
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Old 13 May 2009, 08:59 am
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Definitely not a sunroof problem since my car doesn't have a sunroof.

It was too dark when I got up and left this morning to take any pictures but it should be a good day for them to tell where the leak is coming from. It has been pouring and storming all morning. Hail and good chance for tornados and lots more rain this afternoon. LOL welcome to the Midwest.
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Old 13 May 2009, 09:50 am
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It was too dark when I got up and left this morning to take any pictures but it should be a good day for them to tell where the leak is coming from. It has been pouring and storming all morning. Hail and good chance for tornados and lots more rain this afternoon. LOL welcome to the Midwest.
I'm guessing you must live in Missouri or some other state to the west of Indiana as the weather your describing sounds like what we are supposed to be getting this afternoon, evening and into tomorrow morning. Never fails, every May when they are trying to get practice and qualifications done for the Indy 500, it rains and storms most of the month, especially on the days they want to run.

The plus side, we live 10 minutes from the track and try to get out on weekends as often as we can.
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