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Old 23 Aug 2009, 10:28 am
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Hi, All!

I just got a 2009 PT Cruiser Touring in the Cash for Clunkers rebate deals. I wasn't planning on trading my old '93 F-150 in, however, it was too good of a deal to pass up. So with a sniffle, I patted my old faithful truck goodbye and took the keys to the PT.

I do onsite bodywork for people and animals, as well as set up at horse shows and expos around MI, so the roominess inside was a must for me to haul my massage table and everything else around in. I was extremely suprised to find out that everything for a horse show fit so long as I don't want a passenger in the front. For every day appointments, there is no problem at all with space. The massage table stands up in the very back, my rolling stool is in the back seat and I can put my step for working on horses in the back seat as well. My file box for charts and such goes up front with me.

I am interested in putting a removable roof rack on the PT with the intention of putting my pavillion up on the roof to open up space in the interior of the car. I've also considered a having a 1.25" hitch receiver put on the car to pull a light open-sided trailer for my show stuff. Has anyone done both or either and what did you think? What is a good place to get a roof rack from that isn't at the dealership's pricing?

Also, I had something odd happen with the PT the other day. I was parked on a decline, nose down, in a parking lot where the car sat for about 15 minutes while I was picking up food. It was at about a 120 degree angle, maybe a bit more. When I got back into the car, it took 5 attempts to start it. Anyone have that happen and is it a common issue? The car is parked in my driveway at about a 100 degree angle and never had a problem starting, either parked on the incline or the decline.

Thanks for the info!

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Old 23 Aug 2009, 11:07 am
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I'm not sure if you're aware but the rear seats fold, flip and/or remove for extra room inside. As for the hitch, there's a few available. You have to make sure not to overload the car though. If memory serves correct, the trailer weight can't exceed 1000 lbs and the tongue weight (weight at the hitch ball) can't exceed 100 lbs. If you go on eBay, you can see a couple options for hitches and roof racks. Personally, I think roof racks are unsightly but if they're something you require, then so be it. Something else you can look into is the platforms that slide into the hitch receivers. I'm not entirely sure they make those for 1 1/4" receivers though.

I would take your car back to the dealer and ask them about your rough starting problem on the hill. Do you remember how much gas was in your tank at the time?
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Old 23 Aug 2009, 11:40 am
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Yep, I do know about the seats. It was a major selling point for the car when I bought it. The sales dude was very quick to show me that feature when I told him what it is that I needed the car to be able to do. The seats were out less than 24 hours after I picked it up to go to a horse show. There is no way that I would be able to get what I need for horse shows in the car if the seats didn't come out.

My test drive was to take the car home and make sure that with the seats in and up I could fit my table, my rolling stool and my step in the car without a problem.

While I want to present a clean, sleek and profitable image to my clients, hence the new car, appearances in what I do aren't at the top of the list in importance to me. The roof rack is a tool to get my job done, how it looks isn't a concern, its utilitarian value is. I have never had a new car before. My last vehicle was a 1993 F-150, white body with a bit of rust on it and a green cap. My requirements for vehicles are that they take me from Point A to Point B and back again, carry what I need and don't give me trouble.

The weight issue for a trailer is a big reason as to why I wanted to ask on here of people that may have done it. Very little of what I have is heavy, its more of a volume issue. The pavillion that I currently am using is an 8'x12' and weighs about 50#s. I can get it around without assistance, just awkward. However, I am planning to upgrade to a 10'x20' pavillion, two rooms, next summer. Hence the issue of space and how it is that I get myself about.

This is my very first new car. Every other vehicle that I've had has been at least 8 years old and had 100k+ miles on it. I keep looking at the speedometer and thinking there is a mistake when it reads only 1900 miles.

With regards to the starting issue, I had just about a full tank of gas. I was down about a gallon, just filled up before I went out and about. I am planning to take it in to have the starting issue checked, however I wanted to ask on here as to anyone else's experience with this issue. I despise being spoken down to because I have boobs instead of balls, so I like to have as much ammunition as possible before I go in to avoid being taken advantage of.
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Old 24 Aug 2009, 12:54 pm
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Welcome!!!I to just got a pt 2001 about a month ago also and do some handyman work after my real job I was suprised with all the room also. The six foot ladder fits great with the front seat folded down. I had an 2001 ford explorer that I got rid of. I was concerned at first about room in the PT but not any more I also enjoy the gas mileage a little better. I just make sure everythings coverd before I put anything inside and use those nice D rings to hold things in so they don't slide around. You might look around in the salvage yards for a roof rack I saw one the other day and the guy there told me I could have it for $20 if I wanted to take it off but I think I want a spoiler instead.GOOD LUCK!! HAPPY CRUSIN....twress
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Old 24 Aug 2009, 01:10 pm
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PTHelga,

As far as your driveway ...your not the one who bought one of these are you?



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Old 24 Aug 2009, 01:11 pm
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....because I have boobs instead of balls, so I like to have as much ammunition as possible before I go in to avoid being taken advantage of.
This made me laugh out loud

I've had my PT a few weeks now and haven't had any trouble starting it on a grade.

I'm wondering if when you filled the gas tank, you squeezed the handle a couple more times after the auto stop? I've heard, on other vehicles, an over-filled tank floods the vent tube, fuel backs up into it and causes a pressure issue with the computer?? Something like that??

I would give it a couple more miles. Park it in the same spot, if you can. See if you can repeat the scenario...or wait until your next fill up and see if it does it again.

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Old 24 Aug 2009, 01:41 pm
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Thanks for the welcome, All!

twress, the room is great! I didn't think about a junk yard to be honest for a roof rack. I want a removable one. I've never mounted a roof rack before and theoretically, a removable one will get me into less trouble. I found one on Craigslist in Cincinnati for $125, but I was concerned about getting a used one from far away that I couldnt' inspect before I plunked my cash down.

Yeah, the gas mileage difference between my old truck and the PT is pretty nice, although its less of a difference than most would think. Sasha-truck was getting 16-17mg, and the PT is getting 23-24mpg, so some difference, but not huge. Over all, the car is spoiling me for wanting anything older again. Which is saying something as I've always had older cars, loved them, loved being able to work on them and so on. I took her on our first road trip down to Southern OH two weekends ago to visit a friend of mine and wow, that was a nice, comfy trip complete with A/C AND a working radio! Whooohooo! Nothin' too good for me!

Crewzin, *snerk* I prefer a little more grade than that on my driveway. Come on, I mean if I can't get into orbit off the driveway its just not worth it!

ADR, nope, didn't click the handle again at all. When I had my truck, the back tank needed a couple of clicks to finish filling it, but that was years of driving her and knowing her quirks. With the newer cars, I have heard that trying to "fill" them up a bit more can have some adverse effects on them, so I let the pump stop where it stops and don't try to add any more.

I don't get where I was parked very often, Bob Evans in Adrian. However, as I love their food, it doesn't take much to get me back there. I will see what happens the next time I am parked on such a grade. We don't have many of them, however around the Ann Arbor area, they can be found.

Heh, glad I could amuse! Its a huge pet peeve of mine and one that is usually guaranteed to get a mechanic's life lit up when they try. I don't think its too much to ask to be spoken to respectfully and not as though I am a naive moron whose sole purpose in life is to look up to you as my automotive savior and just hand over my credit card 'cause you know best. WTF ever!
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Welcome.
Recommended starting procedure:
Turn key to on ( listen to fuel pump)
when fuel pump stops, turn to start - do not touch the gas pedal.
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Old 24 Aug 2009, 09:58 pm
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Welcome.
Recommended starting procedure:
Turn key to on ( listen to fuel pump)
when fuel pump stops, turn to start - do not touch the gas pedal.
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Old 24 Aug 2009, 10:10 pm
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Good advice, although for the most part, I turn the key, wait about 5 seconds and then start the vehicle, old habit. Other than this particular incident, this has been just fine for the PT. Perhaps the times that its on an angle, I need to wait longer. That particular start, I do not believe that I did that particular process. Well, after the 4th try, I waited and then it started on the 5th. However, I didn't turn the key completely off, so please correct me if I am wrong, but by the second and third attempt, shouldn't there have been enough fuel pumped through the lines to start?

I definitely didn't flood it, no smell of gas. It was just like it didn't have enough gas to start. Haven't touched the gas pedal to start since I started driving fuel injected vehicles unless there was a problem in a vehicle that I knew. Now, my old '82 Escort Wagon.. THAT was a different story! Heh!
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