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Old 18 Aug 2010, 01:58 pm
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Hello all. I have a 2004 pt which has been a down for awhile now I cant figure it out. First, it lost all power spit and sputtered while driving. I babied it home and read the codes which came up with 300 and 2303. Ive replaced the coil, plugs, and wires with Mopar parts. It drove OK for 2 days then went back doing the same thing. I took it to the dealer who told me the coil and plugs and wires were bad and needed replacing. I told them they were just replaced and showed them the receipt. They told me they need to change out the parts again to make sure they weren't bad. So, 400 bucks later they told me the car was done and for me to come and get it. I drove it home and it seemed to be fine. Four days later the car started doing it all over again. I took it back to the dealer. They checked it out again and told me the computer need to be replaced at the cost of 900 bucks. WOW. I asked them if it could be just re flashed but they said no it needed to be replaced SO here I sit pondering if that is really whats wrong with this car. I've checked the hoses, vac hose, leak tested, and all the wires for cracks or being worn and nothing. does anyone have any suggestions or ideas.
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Old 18 Aug 2010, 02:42 pm
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Tell them straight, that you want your first $400 back because they robbed you without having a gun and they didn't use lubricant before putting the screw in your ....back. They plain and simple took advantage of you. They should not have replaced the parts you already replaced.

What happens when they replace the $900 computer and you still have the same problem ...which, by the way, you probably will since your problem is most likely just something to do with the number 3 cylinder, fuel injector, plug hole gasket, vacuum leak or something to do with the coil.


By the way, you don't have to post in more than 1 section at a time. We all see all the sections that have new entries in them.
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Old 18 Aug 2010, 06:02 pm
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Thanx for answering me CREWZIN, Belive me I have done the run around with the dealer, With that said getting my money back is NOT going to happen. I guess that's why most people don't like going to them. They will always get you in the end... in more ways then one.. I knoticed you mentioned a few things (3 cylinder, fuel injector, plug hole gasket, vacuum leak or something to do with the coil) I've tried looking for a vacum leak and I replaced the coil twice. How would I look to see if its one of the other three. Im pretty good with tools but I have to see it to get it done. Or at least told how.. lol.. thanx again for answering me back. Ill try anything to get this car back on the road its really fun to drive. I forgot to mention its a Turbo GT.
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Old 18 Aug 2010, 06:34 pm
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They should have offered you your parts back. How do you know they changed them if the results were the same?
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Old 18 Aug 2010, 06:59 pm
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OK, most of what I wrote about what it might be had to do with me reading your code wrong. 0300 is a random misfire and 0303 points to the number 3 cylinder but your saying it's 2303 which is pointing to the coil. Your coil has been changed twice so you can almost positively rule that out.

Is the problem, when it comes back, always those particular codes? Are you clearing the old codes by disconnecting the negative battery for about 10 minutes? Did the dealer say why exactly they think it's the computer? I hate to say it, but that's one of the things you do have to look at but they shouldn't have made you change all the things you already did and then say it's something else. Was your car hooked up to a scanner to try and pinpoint the random misfire.
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Old 19 Aug 2010, 02:02 am
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Yes they are the same codes every time. I hooked it up to a scanner and cleared all the codes. I even disconnected the battery for several days to clear the codes but it still comes back. The dealer told me they contacted Chrysler direct and they told them what it was doing. Chrysler told them it was the computer. They have such great techs ...Cough Cough...so here I sit still thinking..lol.. if it is the computer do you know of a good place where I can get one. I would reather do it then give them the money. Thanx adain for all your help..

Hooligan ,thanx for asking re the parts.. I've been ripped off by the dealer before so before I took it in, I marked the parts...lol they replaced them with new ones. Thinkin it was fixed after they repaired it I didn't ask for them back until four days later when I took it back. They told me they did not keep them.
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Old 19 Aug 2010, 02:04 am
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Man, I need to look more closely at these before I submit.. the spelling is terrible...
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Old 19 Aug 2010, 07:06 am
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I really don't have a good place to buy a new PCM. A quick search on Google shows lots of places including eBay but who do you trust. Plus a new PCM has to coded with your VIN and mileage . Read this about replacing one.

2002 pt cruiser pcm replacement instructions for... - JustAnswer
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Old 19 Aug 2010, 08:10 am
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If you are still getting the same codes, I'd go after the misfire - there are cause in order of liklihood:
1) plugs/wires - done
2)intake gasket - spray wd-40 along intake seams - if idle smoothes out, it's gasket.....
3) fuel injector - try Lucas injector cleaner
I don't know enough, but it doesn't sound like computer - why would it only home in on a misfire?
Dealer sounds terrible....
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Old 15 Nov 2010, 06:51 pm
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Hello everyone, Well after many sleepless nights several hundred dollars many trips to the WORTHLESS dealer I finally got the PT up and running again. After several months at the dealers replacing the computer, coil, plug wires, and a bunch of other parts that did not fix the problem i pulled the car out. I was telling a friend of all my troubles and he recommended a local mechanic here in town. I took the car to him and in 3 hours found the problem. Under the manifold, in front of the car, there is a wire loom. Where the two wire looms plug together a wire was arching causing the ignition to fail. I will try to post the pictures of the loom. The mechanic told me instead of replacing the whole loom he just jumped the wire and Bam it works great. He told me I could replace the loom at a few hundred dollars but seeing how much I already spent on the worthless other parts the jump will work just fine.

IF ANYONE is still having problems with codes 300 and 2303 or any bad misfire please check all your wiring or take it to a good mechanic not the dealer it will save you TIME and MONEY
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