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Old 06 Apr 2011, 10:43 am
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Have a 2007 PT touring with the 2.4 and 4sp auto.

In our local scrapyard sits a new 2011 Chrysler 200 that was rear ended.
It also has a 173hp 2.4 mated to a new 6 speed Automatic with autostick... Anyone know if this 6 speed will mate up to the 2.4 in my PT? Love the thought of the pt having a 6 speed tranny... Would engine and tranny fit?
I can get the Engine and tranny for 450 bucks- or 250 each..
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Old 06 Apr 2011, 01:43 pm
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Get the whole car ....

You will need wiring harnesses and computers for the engine and tranny. As for fitting under the hood ... I have only seen the 200 in the SuperBowl Commercial and the one they started airing last week that makes it look a lot better than it did in the SuperBowl Commercial.
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Old 06 Apr 2011, 04:23 pm
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I doubt you can get it to fit, but what the heck, at that price it's almost a give-away. Cost you triple that for a used 2.4 with a Getrag 5-speed.... course with our 2.4 you get more HP.
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Old 06 Apr 2011, 06:16 pm
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Wondering if I could just swap the tranny... Is there a big difference in the 2.4s used in PTs vs the 2.4s used in Calibers, Patriots and the Avengers and 200's? I just always assumed the PT's 2.4 was never upgraded because they were abandoning the platform... the newer 2.4s have much more HP and Torque with better fuel economy... is it a totally new engine or simply an updated one? Do not really want the whole car as it has been hit rather hard in the rear... rear end is crushed up into the rear doors. Front end is spotless and the car only has 1,300 miles on it. Oddly our PT only has 23,000 on it so an engine and tranny swap may seem foolish... but the idea of a 6sp auto is exciting with a marked gas mileage improvement
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Old 06 Apr 2011, 09:49 pm
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the newer 2.4s have much more HP and Torque with better fuel economy...
You got one out of three right... should look at the specs on the HO 2.4 on the PT GT. 173hp??? That's downright wimpy compared to what I'm putting out... or rather what my PT is putting out....lol....
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Old 07 Apr 2011, 08:23 am
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at 150 hp the PTs 2.4 was underpowered.
by comparison a 2.4 Dodge caliber put out 172 HP. 165 lbs Torque

Are these basically the same engine with a different top end?

if they share the same block I would imagine the tranny's would swap with little fabrication...

I just never understood why the PT didnt get the 172 hp 2.4 in in 2006 with the VVT Was the PT the way to use up leftover stock? If a car needed more standard HP and torque it would have been the PT
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Old 07 Apr 2011, 08:42 am
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That 2.4 is 'world engine' or some other silly moniker.

It has an Aluminum block, a nifty thermostat for both block and head,
has a dual stage intake (Like the Neon H.O. 2L)-
I don't believe it shares ANYTHING in common with the Neon based 2.0/2.4
It's mated to the t-355, which is very similar to our NVT-350, but only
similar (believe me, as soon as caliber came out, I looked up EVERY part
number!!)

HP output doesn't tell the whole story; cast iron blocks are well suited for HD
applications, like moving a C-van or a PT- Or the Dakota. It has a very long
stroke, which may not be suited for high power output, but builds tons of
torque down low, again, where a van or PT needs it.

I'd suggest swapping to a T-350 5 speed, simple, cheap, proven.
No computers!
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Old 07 Apr 2011, 09:33 am
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Thanks!

I believe I will pick up this engine and tranny... at 450.00 its a steal... especially considering it only has a few miles on it.. I am going to grab it all--- air intake and all the wiring as well.... Then do I flip it for profit or use it in some future project car? it would be a hoot in something weighing around 2000 lbs... lol
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Old 07 Apr 2011, 09:46 am
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HAHAHA .... I always wanted to fit a modern VW GTI or maybe Audi A4 1.8T or 2.0T into a Porsche 914 .... bet it would get better MPG than the original VW inspired Fuel Injected Pancake engine .... if I could get it to stay on the ground.
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I was wondering this. The new Dart has a 2.4 with a 6-gear. But I looked at it again, the 6 is close-ratio. I want a third overdrive gear that would let me run 70mph at closer to 2K than 3K rpm. For a while I had a 70 mile commute and could regularly get 30-31 mpg. Now with 200K plus miles and a 4 mile commute I get about 23. As was said, the 2.4 PT engine has plenty of torque. I am thinking about doing an engine rebuild that would optimize performance, not maximize it.
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