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Old 12 Oct 2012, 03:48 pm
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Default 2004 PT GT Pilot Bearing/Bushing?

I'm planing on doing a clutch job on my mom's 2004 PT GT this weekend, I ordered a clutch kit (press plate, clutch disk, slave cylinder) but can't seem to find a pilot bearing or bushing anywhere.

I've called parts store after parts store and a couple of dodge houses and eveyone after 5 minutes of looking says they dont show that it has one.

Has anyone had there PT apart?


What the hell does the tranny input shaft ride on? A bearing, a bushing or sum magical fairy dust?

Input is greatly apreciated
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Old 12 Oct 2012, 05:19 pm
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I'm planing on doing a clutch job on my mom's 2004 PT GT this weekend, I ordered a clutch kit (press plate, clutch disk, slave cylinder) but can't seem to find a pilot bearing or bushing anywhere.

I've called parts store after parts store and a couple of dodge houses and eveyone after 5 minutes of looking says they dont show that it has one.

Has anyone had there PT apart?


What the hell does the tranny input shaft ride on? A bearing, a bushing or sum magical fairy dust?

Input is greatly apreciated


if you ordered the correct part, you'll be changing 1 big piece that is riveted together, and a throwout bearing.. nevermind. mine is non-turbo

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Download the parts manual here, no pilot bearing

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Old 12 Oct 2012, 08:25 pm
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This transmission doesn't need a pilot bearing.

In olden days, the input and output shaft were on the same axis, but would turn separately.
This required a pilot bearing as the input only had one bearing to support it in the middle:
(Right about where watermark is on this random google image)



Neat to note; when you engage "high", NO gears are working, the inputs and outputs simply couple together for 'direct'!

Now, the T-350 uses an input shaft supported on both ends.

Everything outside bellhousing is a twisting motion, there's absolutely no need to support end of input shaft.


You COULD install a pilot bearing, you'd need to ream input shaft and press in a small extension, then turn a chunk of oilite for the bushing.
Except there's no need, there's never problems reported with input shaft unless you're putting out power beyond reality.
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Old 13 Oct 2012, 12:47 am
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Thanks for all the feed back and drop'n the knowlage on me, it is greatly apreciated.

Seeing the pilot bearing shaft and the T-350 shaft helped ma brain alot.

Ive done a handfull of clutches in my day and cant ever remember seeing one without a pilot bearing or bushing of some sort (1 FWD & the rest were RWD)

I do have a couple of more questions-

1. Is this a common acurance on late model FWD MTX (no pilot bearing but supported internaly with bearings)?

2. Is the T-350 the PT GT (turbo) tranny and the GET288 the NA PT tranny?

Once again thanks to all of y'all
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Old 13 Oct 2012, 02:36 am
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1. Dunno. Previous family (for 2.2/2.5) didn't have a pilot bearing
2. Opposite, t-350 N/A and Getrag PT 2.4 turbo
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Old 13 Oct 2012, 01:32 pm
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Default Re: 2004 PT GT Pilot Bearing/Bushing?

I think your right about the FWD's no pilot bearing thing, Our 92 Tercel has no pilot bearing. It was news to me, I had ordered a clutch kit and it did not have a pilot bearing, so I went to the dealer and they said "nope does not have one"
so yeah maybe it's a FWD thing?
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maybe it's a FWD thing?
i've changed clutches on a few honda civics. they have pilot bearings
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Old 13 Oct 2012, 09:31 pm
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Default Re: 2004 PT GT Pilot Bearing/Bushing?

I doing a big build up right now on my 03' and recently pulled the trans out. No bushing and the turbo is the 288 getragg.

Couple of tips. Make sure you have a very short 6-point 18mm socket OR boxed wrench to remove the flywheel bolts. They are very close to the oil pan and not much room. You should replace these bolts as well ($2+ each from dealer and theres 4 of them).

Odds are you will need the flywheel re-surfaced as mine had hot spots. I too used to work on a lot of older rwd setups and i was confused at the flexplate-flywheel-pressure plate setup these cars have.

You can get the transmission out first and then remove the 4 bolts from flexplate which will drop the flywheel/clutch/pressure plate assembly but it is very, very tight. Its much easier to remove the 4 bolts first then remove the trans and pressure plate assembly together.

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