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Old 04 Apr 2013, 07:54 pm
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Default Lots of Repairs Needed at 97500 Miles

My 2005 PT Cruiser ConvertibleTurbo with just over 97500 miles has been relatively problem free...until now. When it rains is pours.

I had to get new cam shaft and tie rods last October.

I knew I needed brakes which I got today, but on top of that I need to replace the timing belt and the ancillary parts ( tensioner, pulley and water pump) .The dealers quote on that is $1650. And I need to: Replace front lower control arms, sway bar links, and lower motor mount $1150.00 Replace upper motor mount $240.00.

I'm told it make sense to do all of this at the same time since the lower control arm would need to be removed to do the timing belt.

My sister has a mechanic she and her husband have used for 25 years and was VERY reasonable on the cam shaft sensor and ties rods

Are the current repairs needed ones that folks here would be comfortable having a small neighborhood repair shop do. I know that at least on the timing belt most of the costs are in the labor so I suspect I can save alot.

Any advise is appreciated!
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Old 04 Apr 2013, 08:55 pm
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Are you comfortable having the dealer do it?
They are just as likely to screw you as the local, small time guy is to mess up.

I would insist on a brand new Chrysler water pump, eventhough he'll tell it's not necessary
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Old 04 Apr 2013, 09:09 pm
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Camshaft replaced? Why wasn't the timing belt changed?
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Camshaft replaced? Why wasn't the timing belt changed?
I believe it was the cam shaft sensor. Does that make sense? It was an after-market part. Cost me $150 vs $450 from dealer
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Old 05 Apr 2013, 12:50 am
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later, if keep reading, he says cam sesnsor
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I believe it was the cam shaft sensor. Does that make sense? It was an after-market part. Cost me $150 vs $450 from dealer
Hate to tell you, but even $150 is high for a cam sensor - it's very easy to replace.
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Old 05 Apr 2013, 07:21 am
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...and if it IS the cam shaft sensor, and the dealer wanted $450 for a new one and labor to replace it, my suggestion is to stay as far away from the dealer as possible. The quote of $1650 for the timing belt, water pump and ancillary parts is almost $500 above and maybe more what should be charged.

My only guess is that the dealer you speaking of has an hourly rate of about $200 an hour or more.

I've also deleted your other post which asked the exact same question in another part of the forum.
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I need to replace the timing belt and the ancillary parts ( tensioner, pulley and water pump) .The dealers quote on that is $1650. And I need to: Replace front lower control arms, sway bar links, and lower motor mount $1150.00 Replace upper motor mount $240.00.

Any advise is appreciated!

if you were to buy the motor mounts yourself, total cost under $70. they both need to come off to do the timing belt.

if i were you i would go buy the upper and lower mounts from a parts store. if you already have the upper and lower mounts in your hand and you ask your sisters mechanic to put them on when he does the timing belt, he will most likely do it for free, as both mounts need to come off the car to do the timing belt anyways.

i'd stay far away from that dealer. the way they grouped those repairs it seems like they are either stupid or they think you're stupid. i mean why would they fix the belt take, the old mounts off, put them back on, and then have you come back a second time to change them? their estimates are also very high.

hell i'll come change those mounts over a beer for free if you live near me. it's really pretty effortless and takes well under an hour. you should add your location to your profile
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Old 05 Apr 2013, 02:40 pm
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i'd stay far away from that dealer. the way they grouped those repairs it seems like they are either stupid or they think you're stupid. i mean why would they fix the belt take, the old mounts off, put them back on, and then have you come back a second time to change them? their estimates are also very high.
The dealer identified the need for the control arms and mounts and gave me the quote. I told them that I needed the night to think about it. It was my dad who brought up the timing belt given the mileage so when I called the dealer back next day I asked about it. They said that if it had never been changed it definitely should and indicated that it would make the most sense to do mounts, control arms and timing belt all at once. So I don't think they were pulling a fast one since they did recommend doing at same time and that I would save in the labor costs. But I do think their labor costs are probably at the high end of the range. Thus the decision to not have them do it and shop around.

I know "expensive" is a relative term. So much depends on location. Using repairpal.com, they give a range on the timing belt, water pump ect of $1107-$1630 in Boston (where I am). In Waco TX the same repair has a range of $976-$1451. In Pheonix City AL the range is $878-$1338

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I knew I needed brakes which I got today, but on top of that I need to replace the timing belt and the ancillary parts ( tensioner, pulley and water pump) .The dealers quote on that is $1650. And I need to: Replace front lower control arms, sway bar links, and lower motor mount $1150.00 Replace upper motor mount $240.00.


Any advise is appreciated!
I just got a quote from a local dealer in NY, for 1k for the timing belt, water pump and tensioner. So if I was you I would look into another dealer or a local guy with some PT experience. Good luck
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