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Old 23 Jul 2013, 05:16 pm
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Help me please, I've been given much misinformation and now dealership in Aurora, CO says that I cannot tow my PT, stating I would burn up the transmission" if I tried to tow it wheels down. I came to Colorado from SoCal on a tow dolly (front tires only) and it's cumbersome plus 2.2 tons of metal added to 3.1 ton. I know for a fact good friends tow their 2001 PT (automatic) but only after installing a Remco pump to keep the fluids circulating. Others have said that with manual transmission, just put it in neutral and off you go, all 4 wheels down. I already purchased the tow package, base plate (mounting brackets), tow bar, wiring accessories, and safety cables. I was told that it would not be necessary to add braking system to PT. What is correct?
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Old 23 Jul 2013, 07:21 pm
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I found this on the internet,and thought it might interest you........."We towed our '05 PT Cruiser behind our '89 Chieftain for two years with out any problems. We used an auxiliary brake system for the Crusier and adjusted the brake sensitivity to ensure braking action. The PT scaled at 3100+ pounds, well under the hitch limitation. We now have an '06 Suncruiser 38J for a tow vehicle, so am looking forward to see how it handles the PT."~AvMech~Source:Towing a 2006 PT Cruiser - iRV2 Forums
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Old 23 Jul 2013, 08:19 pm
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Well, if you look inside the transmission, you'd see a whole heck of a lot of oil slinging around when differential is turning (which, of course, it would be if both tires are turning).

Can't see how it would burn up!
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Old 25 Jul 2013, 08:17 pm
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OK here is the scoop. you cannot tow automatic transmissions because the lubrication pump is running only when the engine runs.
Manual transmissions are lubricated by the spinning gears which happens when the axles are spinning so tow away.
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Old 25 Jul 2013, 08:48 pm
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If the front wheels are in the air, what difference does it make? I'm "assuming" that's what he means?
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Old 25 Jul 2013, 08:50 pm
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A PT Cruiser with a MANUAL transaxle may be towed if the gearshift lever is in NEUTRAL....If the transaxle is NOT operative,the vehicle MUST be towed with the FRONT wheels off the ground.....When towing behind another vehicle(flat towing with ALL four wheels on the ground)...If your vehicle is equipped with a MANUAL transaxle,it may be towed at ANY legal speed,for ANY distance,if the transaxle is in NEUTRAL....By comparison;A PT Cruiser with 4 speed automatic transaxle may be towed ONLY under the following conditions: The steering column MUST be UNLOCKED and the gear selector MUST be in NEUTRAL...The distance to be towed MUST NOT EXCEED 100miles(160km)...And the towing speed MUST NOT EXCEED 44mph(72km/h)....If the transaxle is NOT operative,or the vehicle is to be towed MORE than 100miles(160km),the vehicle MUST be towed with the FRONT wheels off the ground to avoid damage to the transaxle.....Source: 2003 PT Cruiser Owner's Manual(Page 204/205)
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If the front wheels are in the air, what difference does it make? I'm "assuming" that's what he means?
No...He wants to 'ditch' the tow-dolly because it's extra weight & a PITA.
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No...He wants to 'ditch' the tow-dolly because it's extra weight & a PITA.
Ohh that's quite a bit different! Then put me down as a no!
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Ohh that's quite a bit different! Then put me down as a no!
He has a manual(5 speed) transaxle....It should be OK.....I would recommend utilizing an auxilliary brake system though,especially if going where there are hills or mountains.
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OK here is the scoop. you cannot tow automatic transmissions because the lubrication pump is running only when the engine runs.
Not true for 1964 & older

They had rear pump
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