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Old 15 Aug 2013, 02:04 pm
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Default Key Fob programming

i have 2 keys (3 button, lock, unlock and panic)
but only one key open the doors, am trying to program the other key using this method :

1. Insert the key into the ignition switch and turn the switch to the ON position.
2. Press and hold the Unlock button on the transmitter between four and ten seconds.
3. continue to hold the unlock button and press the Panic button. A chime will sound to indicate that the transmitter programming mode has been entered.
4. Press a button on all transmitters to be programmed to the system, including any previously programmed transmitters. A chime will sound when each transmitter has been programmed.
5. Turn the ignition switch off to exit the transmitter programming mode."

but its not working! i don't hear the chime to start programming the keys?

any solution without having to go to dealer for that?

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Old 15 Aug 2013, 02:16 pm
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Default Re: Key Fob programming

Manual programming like you are doing requires two good keys to program a 3rd or more keys. If you only have one programmed key, you will need to go to the dealer or a capable locksmith to have the new one programmed.
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Old 15 Aug 2013, 02:27 pm
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Default Re: Key Fob programming

According to the title and his post he is programming the FOB and not the key which on the 06 and up is built into the key.
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Old 15 Aug 2013, 02:58 pm
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OP is using Gen 1 programming method for a Gen 2 key.

For Gen 2, the "fob" portion is programmed at the same time as the key - which either requires two good keys or a trip to the dealer.
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Old 15 Aug 2013, 03:25 pm
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Not according to the owner's manual. This was taken from the owners manual for a 2009 which should be the same. And nowhere did he say he didn't have two good keys. He just said one of the remotes was not working.

1. Gather every transmitter that is to be used with the
vehicle, including any transmitters that are currently
programmed.
2. Enter your vehicle and close all doors.
3. Fasten your seatbelt. (Fastening the seatbelt will cancel
any chimes that may confuse you during this program-
ming procedure.)
4. Place the key into the ignition
5. Turn the ignition to the ON position.
Do not start the
engine
.6. Press and hold the UNLOCK button on the RKE
transmitter.
7. After holding the UNLOCK button for four seconds,
also press the PANIC button within six seconds.
8. When a single chime is heard, release both buttons.
The chime is an indication that you have successfully
entered program mode. All RKE transmitters that are to
be programmed must be done so within 60 seconds of
when the chime was heard.
9. Using the RKE transmitter to be programmed, press
and release both the LOCK and UNLOCK buttons,
simultaneously.
10. A single chime will be heard.
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Old 15 Aug 2013, 03:57 pm
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Don't all Gen 2's have the sentry key option? (pretty sure they do). If so, then I think that may actually be an error in the manual.

There's a sentence on the same page just above those instructions that says:

"Use the following procedure to program additional RKE transmitters if the vehicle is not equipped with Sentry Key:"

So, if you have a sentry key system (and I think all Gen 2's do), then those instructions will not work.


Here's the section on programming the Sentry Key's:

At the time of purchase, the original owner is provided with a four-digit Personal Identification Number (PIN). This PIN is required for replacement of keys by an authorized dealer. Duplication of keys must be performed at an authorized dealer. This procedure consists of programming a blank key to the vehicle electronics. A blank key is one which has never been programmed.
NOTE: When having the Sentry Key Immobilizer System serviced, bring all vehicle keys with you to the authorized dealer.

Sentry Key Programming
If you have two valid Sentry Keys, you can program new Sentry Keys to the system by performing the following procedure:

1. Cut the additional Sentry Key Transponder blank(s) to match the ignition switch lock cylinder key code.

2. Insert the first valid key into the ignition switch. Turn the ignition switch to the ON position for at least three seconds, but no longer than 15 seconds. Then, turn the ignition switch to the LOCK position and remove the first key.

3. Insert the second valid key into the ignition switch. Turn the ignition switch to the ON position within 15 seconds. After 10 seconds, a chime will sound. In addition, the Vehicle Security Light will begin to flash. Turn the ignition switch to the LOCK position and remove the second key.

4. Insert a blank Sentry Key into the ignition switch. Turn the ignition switch to the ON position within 60 seconds. After 10 seconds, a single chime will sound. In addition, the Vehicle Security Light will stop flashing. To indicate that programming is complete, the indicator light will turn on again for three seconds and then turn off.

The new Sentry Key has been programmed. The Remote Keyless Entry (RKE) transmitter will also be programmed during this procedure. Repeat this procedure to program up to a total of eight keys. If you do not have a programmed Sentry Key, contact your authorized dealer for details.

NOTE: If a programmed key is lost, see your authorized dealer to have all remaining keys erased from the systems memory. This will prevent the lost key from starting your vehicle. The remaining keys must then be reprogrammed. All vehicle keys must be taken to the authorized dealer at the time of service to be reprogrammed.
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Old 15 Aug 2013, 09:53 pm
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i tried everything again today but no luck!!!

since i have only one working key i cant try what 392SRT8 suggested!!

by the way, whats the diff between "sentry key system" and " Remote Keyless Entry"?

thank you.
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Old 15 Aug 2013, 10:27 pm
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The sentry key system uses a secret key (code) with the car that only allows authorized keys to start the vehicle. Each key is taught to the vehicle and the vehicle code is taught to the key. The RKE is like on the gen 1 PT's where the remote is separate from the key.

Like I said, if you only have one key, you need the additional ones programmed by a dealer or a locksmith. The up side of that is that they can also erase all other previous keys.

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Old 15 Aug 2013, 10:46 pm
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by the way, whats the diff between "sentry key system" and " Remote Keyless Entry"?
SENTRY KEY IMMOBILIZER MODULE (SKIM)-The Sentry Key Immobilizer Module (SKIM) contains a Radio Frequency (RF) transceiver and a central processing unit, which includes the Sentry Key Immobilizer System (SKIS) program logic. The SKIS programming enables the SKIM to program and retain in memory the codes of at least two, but no more than eight electronically coded Sentry Key transponders. The SKIS programming also enables the SKIM to communicate over the Programmable Communication Interface (PCI) bus network with the Powertrain Control Module (PCM), and/or the DRB III scan tool.

The SKIM transmits and receives RF signals through a tuned antenna enclosed within a molded plastic ring formation that is integral to the SKIM housing. When the SKIM is properly installed on the steering column, the antenna ring is oriented around the circumference of the ignition lock cylinder housing. This antenna ring must be located within eight millimeters (0.31 in.) of the Sentry Key in order to ensure proper RF communication between the SKIM and the Sentry Key transponder.

For added system security, each SKIM is programmed with a unique Secret Key code and a security code. The SKIM keeps the Secret Key code in memory. The SKIM also sends the Secret Key code to each of the programmed Sentry Key transponders. The security code is used by the assembly plant to access the SKIS for initialization, or by the dealer technician to access the system for service. The SKIM also stores in its memory the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN), which it learns through a PCI bus message from the PCM during initialization.

The SKIM and the PCM both use software that includes a rolling code algorithm strategy, which helps to reduce the possibility of unauthorized SKIS disarming. The rolling code algorithm ensures security by preventing an override of the SKIS through the unauthorized substitution of the SKIM or the PCM. However, the use of this strategy also means that replacement of either the SKIM or the PCM units will require a system initialization procedure to restore system operation.

When the ignition switch is turned to the ON or START positions, the SKIM transmits an RF signal to excite the Sentry Key transponder. The SKIM then listens for a return RF signal from the transponder of the Sentry Key that is inserted in the ignition lock cylinder. If the SKIM receives an RF signal with valid Secret Key and transponder identification codes, the SKIM sends a valid key message to the PCM over the PCI bus. If the SKIM receives an invalid RF signal or no response, it sends invalid key messages to the PCM. The PCM will enable or disable engine operation based upon the status of the SKIM messages.

The SKIM also sends messages to the Instrument Cluster that controls the VTSS indicator LED. The SKIM sends messages to the Instrument Cluster to turn the LED on for about three seconds when the ignition switch is turned to the ON position as a bulb test. After completion of the bulb test, the SKIM sends bus messages to keep the LED off for a duration of about one second. Then the SKIM sends messages to turn the LED on or off based upon the results of the SKIS self-tests. If the VTSS indicator LED comes on and stays on after the bulb test, it indicates that the SKIM has detected a system malfunction and/or that the SKIS has become inoperative.

If the SKIM detects an invalid key when the ignition switch is turned to the ON position, it sends messages to flash the VTSS indicator LED. The SKIM can also send messages to flash the LED and to generate a single audible chime tone. These functions serve as an indication to the customer that the SKIS has been placed in its Customer Learn programming mode.


REMOTE KEYLESS ENTRY MODULE (RKE)-The RKE system allows you to lock or unlock the doors, open the trunk, or activate the Panic Alarm from distances up to approximately 66 ft (20 m) using a hand-held Key Fob with RKE transmitter. The RKE transmitter does not need to be pointed at the vehicle to activate the system.

NOTE:
Driving at speeds 5 mph (8 km/h) and above disables the system from responding to all RKE transmitter buttons for all RKE transmitters.

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Old 15 Aug 2013, 11:59 pm
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Randy - what you posted only applies to gen 1.
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