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Old 26 Nov 2013, 01:09 am
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Default Oil pan into ground at 20MPH... Nice crack. Possible fixes?

So was cruising along delivering Pizzas in a neighborhood, and managed to miss a speedhump. Right as the back tires got on the bump, the front ones hit the ground... Car nose dived into the pavement, and then cracked the oil pan all the way from the bottom to the block.

I've got a new oil pan ordered (Steel Spectra Premium one), but i honestly feel that the aluminum pan is stronger, since it's MUCH thicker, and seems to just be better built. I'm wondering if after putting the new oil pan on, it would be possible to maybe fix this Aluminium one for the next time this happens? I've heard TIG welding and JB Weld may work, but not sure if it'll work on something this bad. I managed to get home, but all the oil in the car leaked out within an hour of the impact.

This is in a 1999 Plymouth Breeze, so not sure if it's identical to the PT oil pan, but i feel like it is.
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Old 26 Nov 2013, 01:28 am
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So was cruising along delivering Pizzas in a neighborhood, and managed to miss a speedhump. Right as the back tires got on the bump, the front ones hit the ground... Car nose dived into the pavement, and then cracked the oil pan all the way from the bottom to the block.

I've got a new oil pan ordered (Steel Spectra Premium one), but i honestly feel that the aluminum pan is stronger, since it's MUCH thicker, and seems to just be better built. I'm wondering if after putting the new oil pan on, it would be possible to maybe fix this Aluminium one for the next time this happens? I've heard TIG welding and JB Weld may work, but not sure if it'll work on something this bad. I managed to get home, but all the oil in the car leaked out within an hour of the impact.

This is in a 1999 Plymouth Breeze, so not sure if it's identical to the PT oil pan, but i feel like it is.
Your just better off getting one from the junk yard. I wouldn't trust fixing it unless you get it welded. I would have used JB weld just to get home but not as a permanent fix. Thats just my 2 cents.
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Old 26 Nov 2013, 02:01 am
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Are there no Plymouth breeze forums?

At least put it under non pt discussions geez
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Old 26 Nov 2013, 04:39 am
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Forget about JB Weld for that application for other than a temporary fix. TIG welding would make a good repair. My recomendation would be to take it to a repair station at a general aviation airport. However, for less hassle and maybe even less $$$, get one at the jy or even at the dealer.
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Steel one will be fine. All it's required to do is hold the oil in. Hemi's of the day had steel pans! Steel bends instead of breaking. I would plan on avoiding this kind of thing in the future. A little slower maybe?
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Old 26 Nov 2013, 11:41 am
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to tig weld it will cost as much as a new one unless you have buddies who do that and would fix it on the side i kind of agree steel will bend before it breaks
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Old 27 Nov 2013, 04:46 pm
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There's so many of these cars in the junkyard it's unbelievable.
Get a used one-

You could use epoxy / JB weld, at worst it would do is seep.

MIG or TIG is fine, too.
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Chances are it wont be able to be TIG welded as the crack will now be pourus and any ingress of oil will make welding it to a satisfactory standard near on impossible
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Chances are it wont be able to be TIG welded as the crack will now be pourus and any ingress of oil will make welding it to a satisfactory standard near on impossible
Yup . . . What he said . . .

As to the steel one - I'd probably avoid it, because if they were satisfactory the factory would have used them - much more cost effective. Many times the pan doubles as a stiffener for the oil pan rails and the bottom of the block - they are actually a stressed part of the block assembly, much like the glued in windshields stiffen the roof areas. Sometimes they also are used to secure the lower part of the transmission to the block.

I think your most cost effective direction would be a used factory aluminum pan.
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I would plan on avoiding this kind of thing in the future. A little slower maybe?
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