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Old 05 Mar 2014, 11:59 pm
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Default Two generations of Pt Cruisers?

Confused on why people refer the 06+ as a 2nd gen PT?

How can those minor changes be considered a 2nd gen? Its basically the same thing with interior changes and different bumpers/lights to accompany the bumpers.

The 2nd gen Neon had different bumpers, tails lights and interior from the 00-02 model to the 03-05 model, but it was still considered a 2nd gen.

Wikipedia just shows there only being one generation of PT too.

Is this just PT Cruiser owners being weird again?
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Old 06 Mar 2014, 12:31 am
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Going from 0BDII to CANbus was a major change.
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Old 06 Mar 2014, 12:36 am
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In case you did not realize wikipedia is made up exactly like forums. You can become a contributing member and list information any way you please until another member corrects it by updating.

Basically the worst firm of worldwide source of empirical information!

At the bottom of any wiki source it will give you the update date although at one time but apparently removed was the names of the wiki members who supplied the information and sometimes their source. My 16 year old nephew is a wki contributor.
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Old 06 Mar 2014, 12:59 am
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Default Re: Two generations of Pt Cruisers?

Instead of making two posts I will quote your posts.
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Going from 0BDII to CANbus was a major change.
"In 2006, over 70% of all automobiles sold in North America will utilize CAN Bus technology. Beginning in 2008, the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) requires 100% of the vehicles sold in the USA to use the CAN Bus communication protocol"
Sounds like the majority of vehicles had to change to this technology. Not very special to the PT. But note-able.

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In case you did not realize wikipedia is made up exactly like forums. You can become a contributing member a list information any way you please until another member correct it by updating.

Basically the worst firm of worldwide source of empirical information!

At the bottom of any wiki source it will give you the update date although at one time but apparently removed was the names of the wiki members who supplied the information and sometimes their source. My 16 year old nephew is a wki contributor.
Just used wiki as an example. I guess it was a poor one at that? I mean I don't see any doubtful information on wiki that I have ever encountered but I am sure it's there. But that is besides the point of this thread.


So what say you? Are there two generations of PT Cruisers? What technically makes it a 2nd gen?
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Old 06 Mar 2014, 01:00 am
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I talked to a friend and forum member last night and he came up with some pretty interesting discrepancies having to do with Chrysler sales brochures from 2004, 2005, and either 06 or 07. But he will post them soon enough!
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Old 06 Mar 2014, 01:06 am
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Instead of making two posts I will quote your posts.

"In 2006, over 70% of all automobiles sold in North America will utilize CAN Bus technology. Beginning in 2008, the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) requires 100% of the vehicles sold in the USA to use the CAN Bus communication protocol"
Sounds like the majority of vehicles had to change to this technology. Not very special to the PT. But note-able.



Just used wiki as an example. I guess it was a poor one at that? I mean I don't see any doubtful information on wiki that I have ever encountered but I am sure it's there. But that is besides the point of this thread.


So what say you? Are there two generations of PT Cruisers? What technically makes it a 2nd gen?

We (my group in a night class at Sierra college) find flaws and really bad mistakes all the time with wiki information. The thing is if you don't know they are wrong then you would not see them as such! Right?



Technically speaking your last question is is easy. Busa drives a 2nd generation PTCruiser
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Old 06 Mar 2014, 01:08 am
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Body parts and rated engine output from 1st gen PT up to 05 comparing 2nd gen PTs from 06 on.
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I just know that it's easily apparent to spot the first 1/2 decade Cruiser from the second with the different front clips...respectfully, I like 'em all, but am partial to the front-end style of the PT 1.0~
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It might have been just the forums coming up with a way to distinguish between the first wave of cruisers to come off the assembly line and the second, besides the obvious looks of the cruiser, inside and out, the CAN-BUS system (as was already pointed out) was a major change.

We have anywhere between 5 and a dozen new members come to the forum for help every day. Some just explain their problem and forget to say what year their PT is. If it's a problem that's common to both the new and older PT's we can answer without knowing what year the car is but a lot of problems stem from the electrical system so we have to ask them what year they are talking about. The CAN-BUS system makes a world of difference in trying to isolate a problem as the wiring and fuse/relay system is completely different. Not sure when it started but members just referred to the difference in years as the 1st and 2nd generation.
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What else would you call them to tell them apart? PT 1.0 and 2.0?
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