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Old 10 Jun 2016, 10:38 am
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Default Oil filter question.

While changing the oil yesterday on my 04 Turbo I realized that I picked the shorter filter off the shelf instead of the longer one (brain fart), but went ahead and installed it anyway.

I did a lot of searching but only found turbo filter on non turbo cars. Not the other way around.

My question is, will the short filter be ok on my turbocharged? At least till the next oil change. Or should I get the longer one asap?
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Old 10 Jun 2016, 11:00 am
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The larger filter may be needed if you think you will be operating in an area that has a high dirt content in the air.


It has always been an interesting thing how the larger filters use became so widely recommend over 30 years.... on many platforms.

I use FRAM CHRYSLER 4105409/4273810/FE213 and a few other supersede numbers better retail known as PH3614 on my 2005 GT PT Cruiser.

I have posted this information along with pictures a few times on this forum just don't know where at the moment?
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While changing the oil yesterday on my 04 Turbo I realized that I picked the shorter filter off the shelf instead of the longer one (brain fart), but went ahead and installed it anyway.

I did a lot of searching but only found turbo filter on non turbo cars. Not the other way around.

My question is, will the short filter be ok on my turbocharged? At least till the next oil change. Or should I get the longer one asap?
If me, I'd go ahead and change it. The longer filter will have more filter element material and that gives a greater surface area. A greater surface area reduces resistance to flow. And since the oil pump and related items in the turbo engine are reported to be setup for higher oil flow, it's likely best to have the lower resistance which can increase exponentially (natural log) against increased flow. And even if reports of increased flow are exaggerated, the extra filter element surface area can often last longer while filtering additional carbon particulate that may be created when the oil flows across the very hot turbo inserts.

You should only lose about 1 quart of oil or less when you do this.
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Old 10 Jun 2016, 12:04 pm
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Here are AMSOIL's filter recommendations for the 2004 non turbo and turbo PT Cruiser:

2004 CHRYSLER PT CRUISER 2.4L 4-cyl Engine Code [B]

FILTERS:
Oil Filter Absolute Efficiency Oil Filter (EA15K51) [1] [2]
Oil Filter WIX 51374 Oil Filter
Oil Filter WIX 51348 Oil Filter
Air Filter WIX 46699 Air Filter
Transmission Filter WIX 58934 Trans Filter
[1] 1 (Qty)
[2] Replaces the Ea15k33, which will still work for this vehicle

2004 CHRYSLER PT CRUISER 2.4L 4-cyl Engine Code [G] Turbo

FILTERS:
Oil Filter 25,000-Mile Ea Oil Filter (EAO34) [1]
Oil Filter WIX 51516 Oil Filter
Air Filter WIX 46699 Air Filter
Transmission Filter WIX 58934 Trans Filter
[1] 1 (Qty)

As you can see, different oil filters are recommended for the non turbo and turbo engines. So Chrysler has determined different filter specifications/recommendations for each. The reasons could be different flow rates, different bypass pressure relief requirements, size, etc. Make sure the oil filter you have is recommended for the turbo engine by the filter manufacturer. If not, the filter manufacturer will not be responsible for damage.

If a filter company offers two different sizes for your engine and all other things being equal, the larger has the benefits of more filtration media to allow more particles to be held by the filter, better cooling, and more oil life by raising capacity and more cooling surface. The disadvantage could be more difficult installation if room is an issue.

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Old 10 Jun 2016, 12:06 pm
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There it is, the definitive answer. You can't argue with AMSOIL.
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Old 10 Jun 2016, 12:10 pm
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You guys rock.
....that was one of my concerns, on how much oil would come out by just replacing the filter alone.

I guess I'll get the right filter tonight and a qrt of Mobil 1. And put my ocd to rest..for now. Lol
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Old 10 Jun 2016, 12:15 pm
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It is the Mopar oil filter I picked up btw.. I forgot to mention that.
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Old 10 Jun 2016, 12:26 pm
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The Chrysler filter is OK and of course meets specifications, but take a look at the AMSOIL filter if you want 4.6 times better filtration at 20 microns (per http://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g2192.pdf ) and 15,000 mile/1 year oil and filter change intervals when using AMSOIL under severe service (turbo).
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Old 10 Jun 2016, 02:50 pm
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Can you guys please dumb it down for me a lot... I'm still stuck in the 80s with an old school Ford mentality.
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Old 10 Jun 2016, 02:56 pm
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Can you guys please dumb it down for me a lot... I'm still stuck in the 80s with an old school Ford mentality.
I think you got the right answer in the first few posts before our resident "internet mechanic" tried to jump in and try to act smart. One rotten apple spoils the barrel as usual. If my car, I would change the filter for the reasons we gave.
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