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Old 23 Feb 2017, 09:50 pm
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Default Moog Problem Solver LCA's No weight torque?

The instructions say without any weight on the LCA's to torque them. Does that mean while they're hanging down to just tighten them? Seems counter intuitive to me. Just wanted to be certain. Also- my torque wrench only goes up to 150 lbs. I just made it tight as hell. Is that the general census here?
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Old 24 Feb 2017, 01:09 pm
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Yes, no weight implies the control arm is just hanging there. I ran into the same issue in regards to torque wrench rating. I went to 150 ft lbs, then gave it another 1/6th (1 flat) of a turn. Felt good and tight. I've been driving mine daily at high speed for 1.5 months and it's been very stable.
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Unless a specific tightening is mention for position and not torque you should never exceed the toque settings of the tool by position tightening.
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Old 24 Feb 2017, 01:51 pm
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I can't argue with the textbook, you are absolutely right Nitro. Now OP, go out and buy a torque wrench that is rated to handle 180 ft lbs so you can use it once on this job and probably never again. When you see the price, you'll probably do what I did and press on.
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Old 24 Feb 2017, 03:48 pm
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I just did a set this week as well. 2006 with 106K.
Same issue with my torque wrench having the 150 upper setting.

After torquing to the 150, switched to the 3/4 inch breaker bar that helped get it apart in the first place, then also added about 1 flat more turn to get closer to 180.

With these numbers we are in semitruck territory.
The refresh on these arms really gets the quality of ride back.
Not a bad job if it comes apart intact!
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Old 24 Feb 2017, 05:53 pm
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Thank you for your input guys. It did help to reduce the steering wobble while driving in a straight line. I do sorta get a slight "nub" at the steering wheel though. I think I might have to rotate and balance the tires to smooth it all out. Maybe also an alignment.

I was able to use my fingers to press the large inner rear (vertical) bushing around. I thought it was supposed to be stiff and difficult to move sorta like the engine mount bushings. I was worried that the ride would be worse but it is definitely better. I also had to go out and buy a grease gun for the first time.

The wheel bearings need to be changed as well- but I'll have to take it to a shop for that.

I also ended up changing out the leak detection pump, zip tieing the ends of the vent hoses and bought a REAL gas cap from Parts geek- not the soft plastic one they sell at autozone. I'm hoping the Evap leak codes will go away so I can get her smogged.

As far as tightening and torquing the bolts- I just used the good ol' German method of torquing.
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Old 24 Feb 2017, 07:42 pm
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Thank you for your input guys.
As far as tightening and torquing the bolts- I just used the good ol' German method of torquing.
Germans are very precise individuals and would not have performed the torqueing method the way you did!
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I believe Only1Balto is refering to the joke:

Goodentight - The German method of tightening bolts when you don't have specific torque specifications or a torque wrench.

Example:

Q: What are the torque specs on my rear sway bar?

A: Just make sure they are goodentight.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...rm=goodentight
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I believe Only1Balto is refering to the joke:

Goodentight - The German method of tightening bolts when you don't have specific torque specifications or a torque wrench.

Example:

Q: What are the torque specs on my rear sway bar?

A: Just make sure they are goodentight.

Urban Dictionary: goodentight
That might be what Gunter Wendt used on all the space capsules, he was the last person to touch the astronauts before he secured the hatch, "Goodentight"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnter_Wendt

I'm part German, but I'm sure the Germans that are so precise in some things, some were also very stupid to think they could fake the VW emissions testing, and get away with it.
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