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Old 13 Jul 2017, 09:18 pm
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Hi folks,

My '01 LE, Big Red, has developed a power steering leak this week. I noticed the pump sounding whiny on Wednesday and so I checked the fluid level, topped it off, and figured I'd wait and see what happens. Well after a 90 mile drive tonight I got home to hear the pump whiny again, and again it was low. I checked all around and found that where the inner tie rod connects to the rack was wet with fluid but not sure exactly where it is coming from yet.

Tomorrow I'm hoping to go under and check the rack, seals, return line and return line fitting. Is there anything else I'm missing? Also, how hard would this sort of repair job be for say a low to medium level DIY'er like myself? I have no problem doing oil, brakes, and any suspension related stuff. I'm always willing to learn new things and have an experienced helper that could help if needed.

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Old 13 Jul 2017, 09:23 pm
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Default Re: Power steering advice

often times the leak occurs through the pressure sender.
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Old 14 Jul 2017, 07:00 am
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Which side of the car is the leak on? If the driver side, then PTGT03 is probably right. If the passenger side, then most likely an internal seal. The ONLY way to do that is remove the rack and then you'll need special tools to take it apart. I replaced the rack in mine in about 5 hours and had never done one before. If you have a helper, it'll go a lot quicker. You just need to take your time. The hardest part is getting the roll pin knocked out of the steering column. I used a drift punch and ball peen hammer.
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Old 14 Jul 2017, 10:02 am
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Checked it out and it is on the passenger side. Unfortunately one of the metal lines on the rack itself has rusted out (I'm in the salt belt). My helper is quite busy with his own cars this weekend and I still need my car back by Monday so I took it to my mechanic. I've made and a picture of a different rack and circled where it was leaking. All the other lines were very rusty and so we both agreed a replacement rack would be my best bet in the long run.

The red circle shows where it was leaking from where the metal rusted out. Today I lost a lot of fluid in just a 2 mile drive.

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Because the new rack also comes with inner tie rods, I also thought it would be a good idea to replace the outers as well for a little extra money because it wouldn't require any more labor.

In all, I was quoted $500 for the rack, outer tie rods, labor, and alignment afterwards. I'll come back and post the final bill afterwards.
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Old 14 Jul 2017, 01:02 pm
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In my opinion, you're getting a very good deal. If I had to do one for someone, I'd charge them that much just for the labor! I found it to be a royal pain in the ass.
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Old 14 Jul 2017, 01:42 pm
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I agree. Our mechanic is very, and I mean VERY, good to us. We've been going there for years and refer everyone we know to them, so they treat us well. I always make sure to send them a Christmas card with some Dunkin' Donuts gift card to them every year. They're very prompt as well. I just took it there this morning and was told I should have it back by the end of the day, tomorrow morning at the absolute latest. They've never let us down.
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Old 14 Jul 2017, 02:45 pm
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Well everyone Big Red is back and running. The invoice says $524 but they charged me $500 (they call it our frequent flyer discount). They also did alignment but didn't list on the invoice. Big Red drove straight as an arrow on the way home and is now a happy PT.

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Old 14 Jul 2017, 02:59 pm
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I agree. Our mechanic is very, and I mean VERY, good to us. We've been going there for years and refer everyone we know to them, so they treat us well. I always make sure to send them a Christmas card with some Dunkin' Donuts gift card to them every year. They're very prompt as well. I just took it there this morning and was told I should have it back by the end of the day, tomorrow morning at the absolute latest. They've never let us down.
You gotta take care of a good shop, when you find one

I had a very good dealership that I used for several years and at Christmas time I would take them a care package of goodies to share amongst their workers. Sadly though, they changed ownership and became part of a national chain of dealerships and they have never been the same since. I no longer use them because the new management doesn't seem to care like the original ownership did.
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Old 14 Jul 2017, 03:07 pm
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You gotta take care of a good shop, when you find one

I had a very good dealership that I used for several years and at Christmas time I would take them a care package of goodies to share amongst their workers. Sadly though, they changed ownership and became part of a national chain of dealerships and they have never been the same since. I no longer use them because the new management doesn't seem to care like the original ownership did.
Definitely. I've been to many bad shops. I once took my old truck to a Midas to check for an exhaust leak. They told me I needed way more than I needed and when I asked if he could show me why he said "Hey buddy! No customers in the garage". I told them to take my truck off the lift and never went back.
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Old 14 Jul 2017, 08:25 pm
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Click on the link to get the Build Sheet for your PT, just in case you've never looked it up:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8h8pr2l3hf...Sheet.pdf?dl=0
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