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Old 30 Nov 2017, 11:27 am
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Default 2006 PT Cruiser Horn Fuse Location?

Though everything was done (except harmonic balancer)

Reading through the checklist to get a safety certificate for the car so I can get plates.

Gave the horn A test. Nothing, I pushed it really hard too.

Even when I hit panick, on the keyfob, the lights go on but no horn.

I checked the fusebox, and on the fusebox and in the owners manual, It doesn't display the location of the horn relay/fuse


I have an appointment booked with a shop soon, Need to get this fixed asap. Where is the location of the fuse?

The horn worked before I did the timing belt job, and I never messed with any of its wires. Should I just replace the horn and see if that helps?
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Though everything was done (except harmonic balancer)

Reading through the checklist to get a safety certificate for the car so I can get plates.

Gave the horn A test. Nothing, I pushed it really hard too.

Even when I hit panick, on the keyfob, the lights go on but no horn.

I checked the fusebox, and on the fusebox and in the owners manual, It doesn't display the location of the horn relay/fuse


I have an appointment booked with a shop soon, Need to get this fixed asap. Where is the location of the fuse?

The horn worked before I did the timing belt job, and I never messed with any of its wires. Should I just replace the horn and see if that helps?
There is no fuse or horn relay. The horn is controlled by the horn driver in the TIPM.

I would suggest checking to see if you have 12 volts going to the horn with a voltmeter. This will take you to the right direction in finding the problem. You might check the ground wire if you have 12 volts.
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Old 30 Nov 2017, 12:55 pm
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^ x2

ground wire issue seems most likely if you are SURE it worked before.

it's also the cheapest and easiest to fix
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Though everything was done (except harmonic balancer)

Reading through the checklist to get a safety certificate for the car so I can get plates.

Gave the horn A test. Nothing, I pushed it really hard too.

Even when I hit panick, on the keyfob, the lights go on but no horn.

I checked the fusebox, and on the fusebox and in the owners manual, It doesn't display the location of the horn relay/fuse


I have an appointment booked with a shop soon, Need to get this fixed asap. Where is the location of the fuse?

The horn worked before I did the timing belt job, and I never messed with any of its wires. Should I just replace the horn and see if that helps?
The wires & plug are behind the passenger side fender well, you would have removed this to do your timing belt...very possible you left it unplugged.
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Old 30 Nov 2017, 04:24 pm
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The wires & plug are behind the passenger side fender well, you would have removed this to do your timing belt...very possible you left it unplugged.
I did not remove it for my timing job, But now I cant reach it with the engine in the right spot with the mount
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It is very possible that the ground wire got broke when you were in there for the timing belt. Use a multimeter to check for 12 volts at the horn. You will need someone to press the horn button while you do this. If you have power there, change the meter to read ohms and check for continuity between the ground wire and the chassis. The bolt that holds the horn bracket is a good place. If that reads close to 0 ohms, then your ground should be ok and you have a bad horn.
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Old 30 Nov 2017, 05:11 pm
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It is very possible that the ground wire got broke when you were in there for the timing belt. Use a multimeter to check for 12 volts at the horn. You will need someone to press the horn button while you do this. If you have power there, change the meter to read ohms and check for continuity between the ground wire and the chassis. The bolt that holds the horn bracket is a good place. If that reads close to 0 ohms, then your ground should be ok and you have a bad horn.
where is the specific ground wire?
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There is a splash guard underneath the fender that you might be able to get access to the horn. I removed it one time to replace a bulb but don't remember if the horn was accessible from there or not.

If you do see the horn you will find the horn attached to the frame. The power is on the grey and yellow wire and ground is on the black wire. You will need to have someone pressing the horn button for confirmation of power going to the horn.
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Though everything was done (except harmonic balancer)

Reading through the checklist to get a safety certificate for the car so I can get plates.

Gave the horn A test. Nothing, I pushed it really hard too.

Even when I hit panick, on the keyfob, the lights go on but no horn.

I checked the fusebox, and on the fusebox and in the owners manual, It doesn't display the location of the horn relay/fuse


I have an appointment booked with a shop soon, Need to get this fixed asap. Where is the location of the fuse?

The horn worked before I did the timing belt job, and I never messed with any of its wires. Should I just replace the horn and see if that helps?
To answer your question, per the Service Manual, of which I sent you a PM on 10/25 with a link to download a copy of it from my DropBox, the horn fuse is #23 in the TIPM:



Even though in the Owner's Manual, fuse #23 is marked: ENG ASD Relay Feed 3.

Your TIPM, or at least the cover, must have been replaced at one time. The original cover to my TIPM had the fuse legend on the inside of the cover. But my TIPM has been replaced, with a MOPAR one, but the replacements no longer have the legend on the cover, just the locations and refers you to the Owner's Manual for the fuse descriptions.

This is fuse #23 in the TIPM:



UPDATE:

By process of elimination, the fuse controlling the horn is actually #14 which in the Owner's Manual is marked: IOD CCN/Interior Lighting:

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where is the specific ground wire?
As ptcruisersteve said, the black wire on the horn is the ground. The wire runs up to the inner fender where it is screwed to the fender with 8 other ground wires. The easiest way to access this point is by removing the headlight as the cluster of grounds is behind the a/c lines.
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