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Old 25 Jun 2018, 06:54 am
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Hi all. Story is; driving along about 30 MPH. Loud bang, engine quit, CEL on, crank sensor code. Engine cranks albeit very slowly with no oomph. Will not start. Fearing it's the timing belt, which I am not able to check. Thanx in advance.

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Old 25 Jun 2018, 07:41 am
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How many miles on your PT? Has the timing belt ever been replaced?

There is an inspection hole in the center of the upper cover (in the left cover of the below pic). Remove the plug, crank the engine and you can see if the cam gears are turning.

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Old 25 Jun 2018, 07:53 am
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You can also check the timing belt by taking off the camshaft sensor and see if the camshaft is turning when you have someone try to start the engine.
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Old 25 Jun 2018, 08:41 am
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Sorry to hear.

Loud bang is almost always bad. Timing belt may be one of your better case scenarios. In my experience, when the timing belt breaks they turn over faster because only the bottom half is spinning. The noise will be different. The old 2.2s were non-interference and we just used to run them until they broke. The couple of times it happened to me, I knew right away.
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Old 25 Jun 2018, 05:51 pm
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? Don't you mean 2.4
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Old 25 Jun 2018, 09:13 pm
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? Don't you mean 2.4
He means the Chrysler 2.2's of the 80's. They also were belt driven camshafts...
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Old 26 Jun 2018, 08:02 am
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How many miles on your PT? Has the timing belt ever been replaced?

There is an inspection hole in the center of the upper cover (in the left cover of the below pic). Remove the plug, crank the engine and you can see if the cam gears are turning.

Thanx for the reply. Car has 105,000 miles on it. I don't know if the belt has ever been changed. As I stated. I am not physically able to check. Gotta spend more moolah to have it looked at.
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Old 26 Jun 2018, 09:40 am
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Thanx for the reply. Car has 105,000 miles on it. I don't know if the belt has ever been changed. As I stated. I am not physically able to check. Gotta spend more moolah to have it looked at.

I don't know your physical state, but if you put touch up paint on the two gears in the opening and crank it, if they don't move your timing belt has snapped.

The cover is a PITA to remove but to put a bit of paint on the gears is easy, and doesn't require removal of the cover
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Old 26 Jun 2018, 02:03 pm
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All that has to be done is to remove the plug in the inspection hole in the upper cover, the cam gears can be seen through the hole:

(not my PT but a pic from the internet)


Have someone crank the engine while viewing in the inspection hole, if the gears don't turn, then it's most likely the timing belt has snapped.
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