Blow off on an ATX autostick? also other questions.

[kandem]

Originally Posted by CYCLONE_06

Not a problem. Im fairly still new to all of this myself. I have also thought about upgrading to stage 1, but then I realized that its only worth about 30 hp, maybe, and all the money and trouble it is putting it in, seems like it should do more than 30 hp. I dunno, thats just my opinion.

Id definately get the hard pipes, also open your stock air box, take that white silencer out. That increases intake performance also. Then get the Maxxfabb 3" 02 pipe, and the needswings 3" catless downpipe, with or without cutout. Then, the duals are your choice. I found a steal of a deal on ebay, and got duals, but havent installed them yet.

~CYCLONE_06

um.....is this the piece of foam where the pcv bleeds through? Also, I have always removed the factory intake resonator(usually located in the fender well) in all of my vehicles...is that something I should be doing with the PT?

[CYCLONE_06]

Originally Posted by kandem

um.....is this the piece of foam where the pcv bleeds through? Also, I have always removed the factory intake resonator(usually located in the fender well) in all of my vehicles...is that something I should be doing with the PT?

No, its a white plastic collar that is inside ur stock air box.

~CYCLONE_06

[kandem]

k thanx....gonna go do it tomorrow.

[PT_Cuda]

Guys who only think the stage kit is a 30HP gain are missing some very big things for the auto trans cars..

you gain new shift points and no lift shifting!
You gain new more aggresive throttle response
You gain more boost and for the 03+ bigger injectors = more fuel
04+ You already have the injectors.

But you don't realize how huge a difference the S1 makes in the Auto cars. Makes them much more aggressive and responsive..

Stop looking at just the HP# its not the entire story!!!!!!!!!!

And I drive a 5-speed and know this??? Come on guys do your research please.

but in general yes the Mopar BOV is just a noise maker, we have a stock surge valve which lets off the boost when you let off the gas so the turbo can keep spooling if it needs to keep spoolin'..

[CYCLONE_06]

Originally Posted by PT_Cuda

Guys who only think the stage kit is a 30HP gain are missing some very big things for the auto trans cars..

you gain new shift points and no lift shifting!
You gain new more aggresive throttle response
You gain more boost and for the 03+ bigger injectors = more fuel
04+ You already have the injectors.

But you don't realize how huge a difference the S1 makes in the Auto cars. Makes them much more aggressive and responsive..

Stop looking at just the HP# its not the entire story!!!!!!!!!!

And I drive a 5-speed and know this??? Come on guys do your research please.

but in general yes the Mopar BOV is just a noise maker, we have a stock surge valve which lets off the boost when you let off the gas so the turbo can keep spooling if it needs to keep spoolin'..

Ive done my research. Thats why im not interested in the Stage 1. The install is a pain in the ass, the tranny learning process is a pain in the ass. You also didnt mention how your mpg's drop, and gas prices these days do you really want that ? Oh, and dont forget how most of the auto guys have tranny problems after putting stage 1 in

Just saying, theres two sides to every coin. Im sure the 30 hp and the shift points are fun, but, there are drawbacks.

~CYCLONE_06

[PT_Cuda]

Originally Posted by kandem

um.....is this the piece of foam where the pcv bleeds through? Also, I have always removed the factory intake resonator(usually located in the fender well) in all of my vehicles...is that something I should be doing with the PT?

No that is just to sop up the oil from the blow by line in the valve cover. The PCV is on the other side of the valve cover.

[PT_Cuda]

Originally Posted by CYCLONE_06

Ive done my research. Thats why im not interested in the Stage 1. The install is a pain in the ass, the tranny learning process is a pain in the ass. You also didnt mention how your mpg's drop, and gas prices these days do you really want that ? Oh, and dont forget how most of the auto guys have tranny problems after putting stage 1 in

Just saying, theres two sides to every coin. Im sure the 30 hp and the shift points are fun, but, there are drawbacks.

~CYCLONE_06

You just listed that 30HP wasn't worth it, I wanted to give a little more info than just a number there is an entire range of things an S1 changes for the better.

You think the tranny learn is a PITA?

Lazy man just lazy. You count, drive and watch your speedo - such hard work. Hard work and 15min time. I did one two weeks ago when we put LiquidPT's car back to stock. Or you pay a dealer $70 for an hours time and they program it. I think one can spare 15-20min?

The injector swap for an 03 isn't fun, but if you make the project worth the time you swap out the metal manifold for the plastic manifold and you just upped your HP more and got rid of a little weight and some heat all in one shot. I will give you this is a PITA job for a novice.

Trans issues have mostly been figured out - don't boost in O/D. You have an auto-stick - drop a gear and hammer it. Doesn't matter if you are S1 or not don't boost in O/D period that is what kills tranny's.

MPG?? that can be argued by a lot of us.. Mostly your MPG figures drop since you can't keep your foot out of it, since you changed the entire attitude of the car. Myself I can get easily in the 20's with an S1 or I can do single digits just depends on how heavy I want my right foot. Gary04GT will say his MPG got better after an S1 install and he's no leadfoot, he just does what he does.

It still comes down to a all-around package for the PT the S1 does a lot. The predator can't do what S1 does, a combination of other mods can't do what S1 does. Its also at this point tried and true, reliable and you know for sure what you are getting when you bolt it in.

[kandem]

thanks for the info....I actually may call the dealership to see about how much it will ruin me for. How do you know when you are in overdrive...I am not used to automatics.......I use the autostick all the time. I don't need to lift my foot while ahifting, but if I do it'll sound more like a manual, and the shift is complete a fraction of a second quicker. These cars don't really shift all that fast, I was a bit surprised to find that out. New shift points.......when I floor it in auto mode, the needle goes to 6000 rpm(redline), but if i shift with moderate footwork, it will shift more around the area of 3-5 grand. Since I can shift when I want with the autostick, is it really necessary for the new shift points? Is boost increased with this S1? Which makes me wonder what the factory boost setting is....I think the SRT4 boosts at about 12-14 psi from the factory(I may be wrong).

[CYCLONE_06]

Originally Posted by PT_Cuda

You just listed that 30HP wasn't worth it, I wanted to give a little more info than just a number there is an entire range of things an S1 changes for the better.

You think the tranny learn is a PITA?

Lazy man just lazy. You count, drive and watch your speedo - such hard work. Hard work and 15min time. I did one two weeks ago when we put LiquidPT's car back to stock. Or you pay a dealer $70 for an hours time and they program it. I think one can spare 15-20min?

The injector swap for an 03 isn't fun, but if you make the project worth the time you swap out the metal manifold for the plastic manifold and you just upped your HP more and got rid of a little weight and some heat all in one shot. I will give you this is a PITA job for a novice.

Trans issues have mostly been figured out - don't boost in O/D. You have an auto-stick - drop a gear and hammer it. Doesn't matter if you are S1 or not don't boost in O/D period that is what kills tranny's.

MPG?? that can be argued by a lot of us.. Mostly your MPG figures drop since you can't keep your foot out of it, since you changed the entire attitude of the car. Myself I can get easily in the 20's with an S1 or I can do single digits just depends on how heavy I want my right foot. Gary04GT will say his MPG got better after an S1 install and he's no leadfoot, he just does what he does.

It still comes down to a all-around package for the PT the S1 does a lot. The predator can't do what S1 does, a combination of other mods can't do what S1 does. Its also at this point tried and true, reliable and you know for sure what you are getting when you bolt it in.

When you say O/D, do you mean while the car is in 4th ? So put it in auto mode and then downshift to 3rd, and then stomp it. Just trying to clear that up.

Im not sayin I wont ever get it, but, Im still trying to put together some other things. Its a slow process with me, I hardly ever have the time to work on my car. Im in the process of installing a boost and oil pressure gauge. Got it all figured out except where to get a good source of ignition so when the key is on, the oil pressure gauge comes in. Any ideas ? I know the dimmer switch is the orange wire, so I have the bulbs figured out. Also, found a better place to put a Tee in for the boost line instead of the brake booster line, so got that figured out too. Found something called an oil filter sandwhich adapter with ports for different gauges, or lines, or whatever you want to connect. It mounts between the block and the oil filter, and thats what you mount your gauge to.

After that I can see how much boost I have with the stock setup. I think its supposed to be what, around 12lbs ?

~CYCLONE_06

[4SPEED]

I put a BOV on my autostick and I can make it sound just like a manual