hearing about more and more problems !!

[LAF]

Well when does this limp mode happen. Is it intermitent, at Wot, is it a milage thing, time thing. I guess what I am asking is for more detail as I have A ElecBlue, and want to start looking for ANY signs of trouble, and were any, or all these Stage 1?

[Paw]

I have a White one, the only problem is the never ending P1188 trouble code. Pop up everything I take out on the highway.
No fix so far, dealers stumped.[:I]

[Gary04GT]

quote:That is why I got a red one. They are traditionally trouble-free.

My former Inferno Red 2003 GT must have been a "non-traditional" one! [B)]

[Gary C]

My inferno red is also a "non-traditional" one in the fact that it spends more time in the dealer than the driveway, as such I'm also shooting for the lemon law.

[bobs turbo pt]

all 3 cars, not stage 1 my miles were 4,400, i know one of the other cars has about 15,000 on it the 3rd i have no idea, all i know is all cars get or have had the the problem driving normal not wot, the problem when there would be there all day ,next day might be gone but engine light is still lit on dash, codes still stored in computer most codes that seem to come up are cam sensor, oil sensor,all 3 cars were bought between sept 02 and dec 02 i think

[LAF]

Bobs turbo pt,
Thanks for the info. I have stage one in so am not worried now. It does allmost seem like PCM issues, but only a guess. Cam sensor and oil sensor would make one think of oil pickup or sensors. Sorry to hear of the issue though, hope they get you a solution, wonder if you could put in another PCM to see if that is the case, maybe someone close has one frome thier Stage 1 install.

[bobs turbo pt]

they had changed the pcm on my car still had same problem they finally gave me a new car !!

[Dalite]

quote:Originally posted by Paw

I have a White one, the only problem is the never ending P1188 trouble code. Pop up everything I take out on the highway.
No fix so far, dealers stumped.[:I]

Ask them to replace the TIP Sensor, if they haven't already...

That error is covered under the P0234 pproceedure in the diagnostic manual. The same proceedure is for P1188, P0234 and P1106. It will branch to a clear cut repair or replacement strategy.

If it is not the sensor, solenoids or wiring, it will need a new turbo/exhaust manifold assy.

Have them look under the P0234 test procedure. It is on Page 343 of the 2003 Powertrain Diagnostic Procedures manual for the PT Cruiser.

The P0234 is a Overboost Performance error.

The P1106 is a Baro Solenoid Performance error

The P1188 is a Tip Sensor Preformance error

The TIP sensor functions as a Throttle Inlet pressure sensor and also subs as a Barometric Pressure sensor.

The diag procedure is a maximum of 10 tests. I know you have been having this error code for a while. I wish you good luck in getting it corrected.

It may be worth a call to the service manager at another dealership to see if they are staffed to handle problems like this. It isn't easy to grasp the way the solenoids and sensors work, until you take a good long look at the emissions schematic and the procedures in the Powertrain Diag manual.

[lip]

Does anyone find the idle is quite rough? I have a 5 speed and find it quite rough when I am in neutral. When I turn the car off, it also is pretty rough when the pistons come to a rest. I know this is supposed to be because it's a 2.4 l 4 cylinder but it seems rough.
I guess it's not a problem but I'm curious if anyone else finds this to be true. Compared to my previous 6 cylinder probe GT it is much rougher.
Cheers,
LIP