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Old 01 Jun 2004, 09:40 am
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Default Hard starting turbo

Well, my '04 5-speed GT (2500 miles on the clock, 12/03 build date, K&N drop-in is the only engine mod) will not start on the first try. I turn the key and the starter just spins the motor as long as I hold the key in the start position. Then I let it stop, try again and it starts right up. I don't touch the accelerator and I'm sure that I have the clutch pedal fully depressed. I also let the system power up until all the self-checks have completed before turning the engine over.

Oh, and the hard starting only occurs first thing in the morning after the car has been sitting all night. It doesn't happen when I leave work after the car has been sitting for 8 or 9 hours.

Anyone else having this problem?

Thanks!

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Old 01 Jun 2004, 12:24 pm
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quote:Originally posted by GGJaguar

Well, my '04 5-speed GT (2500 miles on the clock, 12/03 build date, K&N drop-in is the only engine mod) will not start on the first try. I turn the key and the starter just spins the motor as long as I hold the key in the start position. Then I let it stop, try again and it starts right up. I don't touch the accelerator and I'm sure that I have the clutch pedal fully depressed. I also let the system power up until all the self-checks have completed before turning the engine over.

Oh, and the hard starting only occurs first thing in the morning after the car has been sitting all night. It doesn't happen when I leave work after the car has been sitting for 8 or 9 hours.

Anyone else having this problem?

Thanks!

GG
Like many fuel injected cars, it may take a few seconds to build the fuel pressure when you first turn the key before it is sufficient to start. Try turing the key to the "on" position for a few seconds before you crank it. If you open the door and listen you should hear the fuel pump running up to pressure and hear it stop. Then try to start it. If you still experience the same issue you may have some other problem
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Old 01 Jun 2004, 01:19 pm
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Like many fuel injected cars, it may take a few seconds to build the fuel pressure when you first turn the key before it is sufficient to start. Try turing the key to the "on" position for a few seconds before you crank it. If you open the door and listen you should hear the fuel pump running up to pressure and hear it stop. Then try to start it. If you still experience the same issue you may have some other problem
Yup, that's what I've been doing. I listen to the fuel pump pressurize and watch all the warning lights go through their self-checks before attempting to start the car.

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Old 01 Jun 2004, 02:21 pm
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I just found this thread on this issue also .

Seems there may be another issue.

Sorry, I forgot that this forum won't let you link to a subject somewhere else...petty

Anyhow, email me and I will send you the link
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Old 02 Jun 2004, 09:42 am
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We had the same issue with the hard starting on the first try. It was fixed for the most part by replacing the gas cap. Seems the fuel system is a sealed unit and the gas cap was causing a bleed down of the pressure. The cranking of the engine the first time rebuilt the pressure, then when cranking the second time, it would light off.

Mike

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Old 05 Jun 2004, 01:50 am
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We had the same issue with the hard starting on the first try. It was fixed for the most part by replacing the gas cap. Seems the fuel system is a sealed unit and the gas cap was causing a bleed down of the pressure. The cranking of the engine the first time rebuilt the pressure, then when cranking the second time, it would light off.

Mike

I've been having the same starting problem. I have 20k on my GT and this just started about 2k ago. Think I'll try the gas cap. Thanks Mike
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Old 05 Jun 2004, 03:39 pm
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This is not normal for our engine so you got to find a fix somewhere. I think we are on the right track fuel pump, filter, gas cap, etc. Pressure should really be there at the beginning and is being siphoned off or not being made fast enough. Mine starts up instantly after a few days of nonusage. Strtup should be instant if everything is working as designed!
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