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Old 05 May 2017, 10:11 am
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Hi. First post... A friend has a mint, easy driven but high mileage (178,000) '05 PT GT HO turbo I'm considering buying. His wife drove it since new but she decided she wanted something new, so he complied. He's very anal on maintenance and has replaced a slew of things on it (some including motor mounts, rack & pinion, a slew of other stuff I can't remember off hand.) As of now the car is near perfect minus a few little things that need fixed. I'm leery of buying a car with this many miles. Considering the car has had an easy life and not driven hard, Is there an estimate of what the lifespan of some of the components (turbo, engine, auto-transmission, etc.) might be before something major needs rebuilt or fails?
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At that many miles, it's coming due for another timing belt change soon. With all the other parts (timing belt, water pump, tensioner, idler pulley, cam seals, crank seal, center motor mount with new bolt) that should be replaced at the same time, those preventative maintenance repairs would be about $1000-$1500 to have it done at a dealership. So you may want to take that into account when negotiating a price.

What part of the country was the vehicle primarily operated, anywhere near the rust belt?

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Old 05 May 2017, 01:48 pm
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Welcome to the forum from Texas. As rckstein said, if the belt has not been replaced recently, it will need to shortly. Other than that, a lot of the other components could last for many more miles.
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Old 22 Jun 2017, 07:22 pm
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Hi. First post... A friend has a mint, easy driven but high mileage (178,000) '05 PT GT HO turbo I'm considering buying. His wife drove it since new but she decided she wanted something new, so he complied. He's very anal on maintenance and has replaced a slew of things on it (some including motor mounts, rack & pinion, a slew of other stuff I can't remember off hand.) As of now the car is near perfect minus a few little things that need fixed. I'm leery of buying a car with this many miles. Considering the car has had an easy life and not driven hard, Is there an estimate of what the lifespan of some of the components (turbo, engine, auto-transmission, etc.) might be before something major needs rebuilt or fails?
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First, a 2005 GT is one of the best models with the most available aftermarket add-ons for performance and everything else. I owned one myself.

The timing belt has already been covered. Here's the rest:

Headlight assemblies (old ones get foggy)
Tail light assemblies (old ones get cracked and retain water)
Front and rear wheel bearings (they at least need looking at nearing 200k)
Front lower control arms (rear bushings go bad. If yours aren't now they've likely been replaced at least once)
Windshield washer nozzles. (They get crispy either from heat or chemicals in the washer fluid.)
Radiator fan (it will eventually fail. This kills more PT's than anything else.)
Cam Sensor (it will eventually fail. Buy Mopar, this is one of the few times I will ever say that.)
Muli-function switch. (one day your fog lights will just come on and stay on. Look to see if the fog light fuse has already been pulled)
Valve cover gasket (look for oil in the spark plug wells)
Worn leading arm bushings in the back. (car will squeak going over bumps)
Electric tailgate latch failure. (this is particularly common on 2005 models)
Gauge cluster bulbs. (do they all burn?)
Blown door speakers (cheaply made in 2005. Rear speakers are great)
Broken plastic arms on sunroof. (put in vent position and check on the arms that lift the glass part to vent. When these fail so does the entire sun roof)
Original spark plug wires (if still there, they likely need to be changed)
Corrosion under the battery tray. (can get all rusty and stuff)
Weak drive belt tensioner. (causes belts to squeal right after first start up and in rain)
Missing splash guard on right side under engine. (often gets broken and left off during maintenance. )
Broken vanity mirrors and/or lights.


That's enough for now. I'll post more when I think of it.
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Nobody mentioned an 03. cdd29 said an 05.
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Welcome to the forum.

First, a 2005 GT is one of the best models with the most available aftermarket add-ons for performance and everything else. I owned one myself.

The timing belt has already been covered. Here's the rest:

Headlight assemblies (old ones get foggy)
Tail light assemblies (old ones get cracked and retain water)
Front and rear wheel bearings (they at least need looking at nearing 200k)
Front lower control arms (rear bushings go bad. If yours aren't now they've likely been replaced at least once)
Windshield washer nozzles. (They get crispy either from heat or chemicals in the washer fluid.)
Radiator fan (it will eventually fail. This kills more PT's than anything else.)
Cam Sensor (it will eventually fail. Buy Mopar, this is one of the few times I will ever say that.)
Muli-function switch. (one day your fog lights will just come on and stay on. Look to see if the fog light fuse has already been pulled)
Valve cover gasket (look for oil in the spark plug wells)
Worn leading arm bushings in the back. (car will squeak going over bumps)
Electric tailgate latch failure. (this is particularly common on 2005 models)
Gauge cluster bulbs. (do they all burn?)
Blown door speakers (cheaply made in 2005. Rear speakers are great)
Broken plastic arms on sunroof. (put in vent position and check on the arms that lift the glass part to vent. When these fail so does the entire sun roof)
Original spark plug wires (if still there, they likely need to be changed)
Corrosion under the battery tray. (can get all rusty and stuff)
Weak drive belt tensioner. (causes belts to squeal right after first start up and in rain)
Missing splash guard on right side under engine. (often gets broken and left off during maintenance. )
Broken vanity mirrors and/or lights.


That's enough for now. I'll post more when I think of it.
This is across the board with any manufactured car. Rubber and plastics breakdown because of oxygenation and damage from UV rays and chemicals. Therefore they have either a shelf-life or a limited working life.
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This is across the board with any manufactured car. Rubber and plastics breakdown because of oxygenation and damage from UV rays and chemicals. Therefore they have either a shelf-life or a limited working life.
You might apply this list to many cars. At least you might to other Mopars of the same era. However, the items I mentioned are those that specifically break on a 2005 PT GT. I took most of these from the repair list on my own 2005 PT GT and a few other items we see here a lot like the rear latch.
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This is across the board with any manufactured car. Rubber and plastics breakdown because of oxygenation and damage from UV rays and chemicals. Therefore they have either a shelf-life or a limited working life.
I was thinking the same thing... not really PT Specific just common sence.
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