Stage 1 vs. WRX....................

[Mike-in-Orange]

quote:uhavetobekidding Posted - 10/29/2004 : 6:01:50 PM
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With my lightly modded '04 WRX(not STi) any time, any place.(within the Philadelphia Tri-State area) I welcome the "challenge". BTW the STi is far from a 40k car. If I bought an STi and put that much cash in.....I'd be on the Z06 board talking trash.

Right you are, the STi is definitely not a 40k car...that poster was wrong. Is it safe to assume that you've got some track time in with your WRX? If so, what sort of ET are you running, and what's your trap speed? I run pretty consistant 14.8 1/4s in 90+ degree California heat (Stage 1 on a Turbo Lite with an auto tranny). That isn't meant as bragging by any means (c'mon, it's only a 14.8 after all!), just telling the cold hard facts. Still, I've beaten Mustang GTs with my car, and never would have thought that to be possible. I'm sure the Mustang drivers didn't either! Anyway, I've witnessed first hand PTs running 14.2 and have seen discussions of guys getting into the mid to low 13s.

I know many of the PT GT guys have successfully raced WRXs in the past, but who knows why the WRX lost; bad driver, bad reaction time, traction problems, or the particular PT was just plain faster than the particular WRX? I also know PT drivers who have lost to WRXs, so it works both ways....as it almost always does.

I'm a big fan of the WRX, and I think of lot of non WRX fans don't realize the difference between the STi and non STi, just like many people aren't aware of what a PT GT can do. We can trash talk each other all we want, and it means jack. There's no point to it....the only thing that matters is when we go head to head. If the loser starts making excuses then he's just that, a loser. Whom ever loses the race, whatever race it might be and whatever cars you're racing, just needs to take it like a man and admit the other car was faster. Because guess what? There's ALWAYS someone faster.

[PTGT_Boy]

Don't get me started with California.......... it nerfs any car out here........... I'm still living in California ARGHHHHHH.

[CHROMEDCRUISER]

Hoopdiewagon, don't put down N/A's man, we have a few tricks up our sleeves too. There has been many a time when I've roasted higher displacement cars out there, and they never saw it coming. Driver ability has a bit to do with it as well. Plus, we N/A's don't have to worry about overboosting and overheating more than just the engine.

[hoopdiewagon]

quote:Originally posted by CHROMEDCRUISER

Hoopdiewagon, don't put down N/A's man, we have a few tricks up our sleeves too. There has been many a time when I've roasted higher displacement cars out there, and they never saw it coming. Driver ability has a bit to do with it as well. Plus, we N/A's don't have to worry about overboosting and overheating more than just the engine.

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[03GTRACER]

W0RX4ME I live in the Philly area and I'm down for a little friendly competition. I have an automatic Cruiser with stage one and a FIPK cai from K&N. I hung out with a couple of WRX guys last night. Everybody was cool and had a great variety of WRXs and 2.5RSs. I have't raced anyone to speak of yet or had it at the track. So i'm kinda of curious how it will stack up against a WRX. To all the Turbo Cruisers in the Philly/Bucks County area I would like to arrange some kinda of meet in the near future. Mabye evan a Turbo Cruiser vs WRX at ATCO RACEWAY in Jersey. Everybody is ready to talk about the win and not about the time there ass was handed to them by another car so lets hear about the losses. Seems like everybody is a winner in the world of forums.

[macster]

quote:Originally posted by Mike-in-Orange

I run pretty consistant 14.8 1/4 miles....you're probably a bit quicker than that. Still, it would be fun and I'd be happy to buy you a cold Coke if you beat me.

Mike

Hopefully this guy will show up and bring some of his friends, so that we can pair off and have some fun. BTW, I ran a WRX (stock manual) 3 times in the 1/8 mile lost 2 and won 1. I'll post the time slips ltr.

All that other crap about EVO's and STI's is just plain BS for a S1/CAI only PT. FYI, it takes about 290.2 WHP for a 3383lbs PT to run 13.2 in the 1/4. 240WHP won't do it. 240 WHP equates to 14.071 in the 1/4 mile. However if you take the 240WHP PT and hit it with a 50 shot of NOX then voila, you have your 290WHP PT and your 13.2's. (btw this is all math, but you get the idea). Finally, I'm at 213WHP, so I'm expecting to run 14.6 to 14.8 at Fontana. It appears that my expectations are a tad bit high. I should expect to run a 14.4 or 14.5, yeah right! It's just amazing how much BS shows up around here e.g. "I ran a 13 this and I ran a 13 that." But when the question is asked what mods do you have, the answer provided is a list of items that just don't add up. If K2 who has a PSFI PWR PAQ etc has not broken 13's then....... anything less is just BS, cause it don't add up.

Finally, I will be at Fontana on the Nov 13, let's see if we can get some WRX folks to show up.

m~ (MR8)

[icantdrive75]

quote:Originally posted by Mike-in-Orange

Hey, icantdrive75, I don't think anybody here is knocking the WRX. Some of us are just sort surprised that we can actually be competition for one, let alone occassionally beat one. As you say, the STi is a different animal altogether!

Have you ever been out to California Speedway in Fontana for Street Legal Drag Night? The next one coming up is Saturday November 13th. Gates open at noon and racing runs from 4-11PM. We'll have a group of maybe half a dozen PTs out there.....come on out and let's have some friendly fun. I've never gone head to head with a WRX and quite honestly I'd be very surprised to beat one. I run pretty consistant 14.8 1/4 miles....you're probably a bit quicker than that. Still, it would be fun and I'd be happy to buy you a cold Coke if you beat me.

Oh I'm there. Hopefully. Sorry you guys about the other WRX guy. People are dicks. What can ya do? Honestly I think it would be neat to be beaten by a PT. I look at it this way. No ones gonna care if I beat a PT. Everyone will say, Meh, it's just a PT. And I'll say nooo you don't understand it's a PT GT. And they'll get confused by all the letters and run off. But if I guy in a PT were to beat me all of his friends would love him, I mean, he just beat a WRX which, no matter how many of you on these boards have done that, it is still no small feat.

After writing that I do realize you guys are right, WRX owners are ALL cocky. Even nice ones. But that's why I bought it, so I could be cocky. And get the babes. The babes haven't really been gotten yet, but they will, oh they will. Hey give me a website or directions to Cali Speedway and I'll see you guys out there.

Danny

[PTGT_Boy]

Meet up at the AM/PM around 12:00pm on the NW corner of Cherry and Valley. We leave around 12:15pm. I know this time around we will have a few WRX owners comming out, if you want to meet us at AM/PM its fine with us OR you can meet us at the track/pit/line-up line. It's pretty obvious not to miss us (considerng we are probably the only Southern California Group that even touch the track with a 10 foot pole).

California Speedway info:

WHO: Street legal drag racers, spectators and media

WHAT: NHRA Street Legal Drag Racing Dragway.

WHEN: Saturday, November 13th

WHERE: California Speedway, 9300 Cherry Avenue, Fontana
The quarter-mile California Dragway is located in Parking Lot 1 behind the speedway's main grandstands.

TIME: Tickets go on sale and Tech Inspection begins at 2 p.m. For early arrivals, a holding area in Parking Lot 2 will open at Noon with admission sales starting at 2 p.m. Racing is scheduled to start at 4 p.m. All activities will conclude at 11 p.m.

COST: For participants and fans, the price is $10 per person to enter the speedway and $10 for race participants to purchase a Tech Card ($20 total for racers).

Wear: You MUST have LONG pants and a shirt with sleeves if you race! A helmet if your PT/Car is under 14's in the 1/4 mile.

Need To Know:

line up 12pm

tickets on sale 2pm

tech inspec. 2pm

racing starts 4pm

racing ends 11pm

[crazie.eddie]

COOL! Please post photos & video clips if you have them. I love seeing track runs. Hope to do one some day, after I get more consistent on my launches and times.

Take care guys and be safe!

Just remember, it's all for fun

[amazingarthur]

Sorry I quoted the WRX STI as a near $40k car. I stand corrected.

Now I'm not incorrect in saying that a WRX will not get chicks (the PT doesn't seem to work either).

I need a Vette.