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Old 28 Mar 2020, 12:03 pm
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Default Seats - and how to lighten them

Seats are 3% of the PT's weight. Like lots of people, I run without mine in. But, their nice to have, especially as we can fold them out of the way.

Has anyone figured out a way to lighten them? Specifically, Gen 1 seats, but Gen 2 will do for clues.

Whats the best way to get the skins off them without damaging anything?
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Old 29 Mar 2020, 10:00 am
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With a choice this afternoon between 3-in-a-bed with a nubile pair of young Latino virgins and making a PT Cruisers back seats lighter, naturally, I decided to start stripping the larger of the back seats down.

Once the plastic back is off, and the seat dis-assembled into 2 halves

(Pics to follow)

The leather and cushion sponge came away quite easily, leaving the squab frame, with the location system and lock down mechanism

(Pic to follow)

At this stage, you're left wondering about the minds behind designing a car that could always have done with a bit more poke - particularly in the weedy 2.0Ltr form it usually came to Europe in.

The cushion and leather don't even weigh as much as a bag of sugar. The bottom frame *alone* must be getting on for 25- 30lbs - and the seat back is the heavier half of the seat by about 50%, so Cod nose how much the metal framing in that weighs

So check that pic. How easy would it to have been to have made the bulk of that as one white metal drop casting? Given that the back seats are 3% of the kerb weight, if they lost even 50% of their weight they had an effective HP increase of (guessing) getting on for 5% - for free.
If you've ever driven the 2,0ltr, you'll know what a difference that would make.

So now, after coffee... phase 2...
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Old 29 Mar 2020, 10:31 am
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The rear seat and all the brackets are less then 100lbs.



Nice project will look forward to the pictures.


I am drinking my freshly morning brewed coffee while reading the latest forum banter myself!!!
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The rear seat and all the brackets are less then 100lbs.



Nice project will look forward to the pictures.


I am drinking my freshly morning brewed coffee while reading the latest forum banter myself!!!

Not that you and I ever bicker about anything but they were weighed on a German forum and they total 57Kg.
57Kg is 126lbs.
The kerb weight of a 2.0ltr LE is (was) 1568Kg - I'll let you work out what percentage of the kerb wieght 57Kg is over your second coffee

I've stripped them both down to nothing now, and I reckon I can lose 30% of the weight pretty easily, maybe half with a bit more ingenuity, but German by-laws forbid me getting the angle-grinder out on Sunday afternoon, so Stage 2 will have to wait.

When you see the pics (later) you'll see what I mean about how they missed an opportunity - even if it was only making the seats easier to remove and put back in...
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Go look on this forum what I weigh them at.

And what exactly do you think a 1st gen PT actual (not advertised) weight is?

I posted that as well from a State certified weigh station

Oh and there is a member that races his PT Cruiser and has cut,removed, chopped and done everything possible to lighten his PT Cruiser and may have reduced it by 300 lbs? See his thread about his RACE PT Cruiser. Sooooooooo
well we know what I was going to say.
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Go look on this forum what I weigh them at.

And what exactly do you think a 1st gen PT actual (not advertised) weight is?

I posted that as well from a State certified weigh station

Oh and there is a member that races his PT Cruiser and has cut,removed, chopped and done everything possible to lighten his PT Cruiser and may have reduced it by 300 lbs? See his thread about his RACE PT Cruiser. Sooooooooo
well we know what I was going to say.

You're married, aren't you...
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This may help ya????

The.... 2005 PT Cruiser GT 2.5 ATX with no rear seat, NO spare tire or brackets, single glass pack CAT exhaust aprox 30lbs lighter then stock exhaust FULL tank of fuel certified (wet)weight 3220lbs/1460kg
I also have the weight before I removed anything as well...


WTF does BEING married have to do with anything? lol
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WTF does BEING married have to do with anything? lol[/QUOTE]

No nubile Latino virgins for you
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