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Old 09 Jul 2016, 05:01 pm
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Yep,

I'm back and I have some new wheels.

While concentrating on my Hemi Charger Daytona and taking a hiatus from the PT Cruiser world, I stumbled upon the PT I wanted from my next project at the price I wanted to pay.

I'd been watching this 2007 PT convertible a while on Craigslist. The transmission quit working while this young girl was going down the highway. She got her brother to tow it home for her and he ended up destroying the bumper cover in the process. Other than that, the car appears almost perfectly straight. And it has what appears to be a new convertible top make out of good quality material. Also, the Craigslist ad said there was no title.

While watching the car on Craiglist, it went from $2500 to $2000 and then $500. Of course, I jumped fast when I saw that. The girl didn't list the price on the heading of the ad. So buyers had to keep reading the description to see this price drop. And I'm sure many didn't do that.

When I got to the girls house, I found she was young about my son's age, unmarried with a child living in a small rent house near a vocational school. She didn't have the title and she said there was a lean on it. Reading between the lines on what the girl told me, I gleaned that she had been working at a daycare and needed a car. So the owners gave her this PT convertible with the idea she would pay them back. But her life is such that she never got a round to doing that. And now the transmission was out. She told me that her "friends" at the daycare would likely just sign to clear the lean if it would help her get another car. But she had just planned to sell it with no title. I felt sorry for her and offered her a $1,000 for the car if she could get the title. I realize that this young girl seems to partially live off the kindness of strangers, but she was very sweet and reminded me of my own kids.

She needs a lot of work. But she seems to have good "bones". A new head gasket was installed about year ago and the timing components were done at that time as well. The engine runs great and sound perfect. And the top goes up and down as it should. It will take a lot to get her up to "Handy" standards. But frankly, I enjoy working on these little toy cars more than driving them. So that's okay.
Wow, very cool to see you back...!!! I've been tinkering and I stopped to the bone yard today to pick up some regular taillights. I am thinking of selling my Gen IIs with the chrome trim on them. I don't care for the chrome on either of my cruisers.

Want to swap taillights?? Mine are like new. The guy who had the car before me kept it in showroom condition.
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P.S. how can you sell a car without a title and with a lien on it??? I don't think you can do that up here in New York State. Maybe.....
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Old 09 Jul 2016, 06:28 pm
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Want to swap taillights?? Mine are like new. The guy who had the car before me kept it in showroom condition.

P.S. how can you sell a car without a title and with a lien on it??? I don't think you can do that up here in New York State. Maybe.....

Thanks for the offer but I'm not big on too much extra chrome either. However, you can get two brand new tail lighst with free shipping on Amazon for $50 for the pair:

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On the title business, I did get the title. The little girl originally wanted $500 for the car. But I told her I'd give her a $1,000 if she could get the title. So she got her friends to sign off on the title and lean. In Arkansas there's a place on a car title to sign to clear the lean. So the friends just had to sign the title on the lean holder line and the girl signed on the seller's line on the back.




The funny part was how I got the title and the car. The little girl got another friend to take her over to Hot Springs (where Bill Clinton grew up) to get the title and get it signed by her friends at the day care. Then she wanted me to meet her at Lloyd's Auto in Hot Springs. It's a large and pretty nice self-financing used car place where the girl's friends had original bought this PT. Obviously they told her that was a good place to get a car. So I meet her there, got the title and gave her the $1,000 in cash. She then used it to put a down payment on a another car while she was there.

I wouldn't have recommended to her to buy a car there. Lloyd's is known for being a fairly honest place, but you almost always pay more when the car dealer does the financing in-house. However, it wasn't my place to tell this girl what to do. And that may have been the best she could do depending on her credit situation which I would guess is not top notch. The best I could do was be fair in our transaction. And by giving her twice the asking price, I think she came out okay.




After I got the title I called a towing service in the town where I live. It was 4:00 pm by then on a Friday and I figured they wouldn't be able to come get the PT until the next week. But low-and-behold, they wanted to come get it right then. The PT was a 20-minute drive from where I live. And Loyd's Auto in Hot Springs was a 30-minute drive from the PT in almost the opposite direction. So I had to do some serious driving back over the mountain to get to the PT in time. But I made it. And when we got the PT back to my house, the two guys in the tow truck said, "Hey, haven't we been here before?" And sure enough, they had. And since I'm a "repeat customer" they even helped me push the PT through the gate into the backyard. I guess it's folks like me that help keep them in business.
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Wow, very cool to see you back...!!! I've been tinkering and I stopped to the bone yard today to pick up some regular taillights. I am thinking of selling my Gen IIs with the chrome trim on them. I don't care for the chrome on either of my cruisers.

Want to swap taillights?? Mine are like new. The guy who had the car before me kept it in showroom condition.
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P.S. how can you sell a car without a title and with a lien on it??? I don't think you can do that up here in New York State. Maybe.....
The chrome accents should just be an applique attached to the stock lights, and held on with double-sided tape. You should be able to remove them by heating with a hair dryer to release the tape, while you gently pull on the applique.
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Old 09 Jul 2016, 09:05 pm
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The chrome accents should just be an applique attached to the stock lights, and held on with double-sided tape. You should be able to remove them by heating with a hair dryer to release the tape, while you gently pull on the applique.
Yeah, I know, I was just hoping someone would like them the way they are.

Maybe I'll just take the chrome off. We'll see.
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Old 09 Jul 2016, 10:47 pm
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Time to get a few things done.

First, I changed out the oil pressure sending unit. This is best reached from beneath the car. There was also a tubular heat shield over it that just pulled off by hand. And right there you can see there is indeed oil in the end of it.




I just don't understand why these leak. But it appears that oil is able to get by the rivet that holds the connector prong in place.




Next, I needed to get the ECU back in place. "PCM", "ECM", "ECU", "computer", "brain", it's all the same thing and/or some are technically subsets of the others. But for now, I'm going to call it an ECU. And I'll be doing more with this later. For now, I need it back in my PT so I can get the software number and be able to start the car.




One thing on the PT convertible I've noticed. The windows go up and down about an inch automatically when you open and close the doors. This lets the windows clear the edge of the convertible top. Without the ECU in place, this does not work.




And there's the software version displayed proudly on my DS Trinity. I already knew the Trinity didn't support the 2007 Turbo Lite or any 2007 PT at all. But I've got other plans. This ECU is a replacement that a previous owner had installed. The manufacturer date on the bottom of the ECU is 2008 and there was no software tag on the side. So I needed to read the software version with the Trinity or some other OBDII reader that displays it. Myckee gave me that piece of advice.




Now here's the punch line. While under the car I noticed THIS:




That is the intermediate CV shaft pulled out of the differential. THIS is why the transmission quit working. The carrier bearing had come out of the intermediate shaft bracket and let the hole thing slide to the right.




And of course, the right CV shaft is toast as well. With the boot out of the way you can see how rusty and dry the inside of the inner CV joint is.




This is either good or bad news depending on how you look at it. The bad is that I'm now out an extra $176 for a new intermediate shaft and right CV shaft. Rock Auto has the new intermediate shafts but they are not listed in their catalog by application. You have to search by part number and they are $110. A new quality CV shaft is around $55 and then there's shipping. Mine are already on the way.

The good is that it's possible that I will not have to replace the transmission. Based on the little girl's story, she was going down the road and the car starting making a noise from the transmission. She just kept going until it quit pulling and she pulled to the side of the freeway. When originally checking out the car, I found the fluid very low and burnt. Based on what I know now, I figure the the intermediate shaft worked it's way out of the differential while the girl was going down the road. She was losing transmission fluid as she went but the shaft came out past the spines before the car quit pulling from lack of tranny fluid. OR the car quit pulling due to the lack of tranny fluid.

Since I've got to replace these parts anyway, I'm going to try them first with some new transmission fluid and filter if the pans isn't full of shavings and metal pieces. Either way, my new $300 ($450 with shipping) 57,000-mile transmission will be dropped off next Tuesday. But who knows? I might get lucky and end up with transmission to resale and fewer busted knuckles. It's worth a shot.
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One thing on the PT convertible I've noticed. The windows go up and down about an inch automatically when you open and close the doors. This lets the windows clear the edge of the convertible top. Without the ECU in place, this does not work.

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When the Chevy SSR first came out, I went and looked at one. That's the first thing I noticed. The windows drop a bit when you open the door, in order to clear the top. My first thought: How the heck do you get in the car if the battery dies, or the window motor dies?
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Today I got in a donor ECU. And I've already packed it up and dropped it off at the post office for shipping. Hopefully, it will come back to me with a pretty muscled up tune on it. I'll do a complete write up on that. But it's still a ways off right now. I got to get my little silver ragtop where she will putt down the road on her own first.

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