Katrina Victims

[satellite66]

Don your not blaming Bush but I notice you make no mention of the LA gov or NO mayor when it comes to anything. The mayor, gov and the LA OEM are first responders. It is all about Bush bashing no matter how you want to frame it.

[satellite66]

Does anyone realize that Bush could not send in troops until the gov asks? Federal law prevents this. I'm sure all the Bush bashers would have praised him if he ordered troops to invade without permission. Regular army cannot be sent in until the guard is authorized and the gov requests it. The gov controls the NG and did not mobilize all the LA guard units availible to use.
The mayor did call for mandatory evacuation of NO but did nothing to facilitate the evacuation. Did he send in the police to ensure compliance? Did he provide any transportation? Why were people allowed to remain? He set up the superdome as a shelter without proper security or essentials. NO has been threatened by these storms for years why did the local government not have contingent plans?
Neither the gov or mayor showed leadership in this crisis yet Bush is to blame. Levee failure had been predicated decades ago but the powers that be in LA and NO ignored the warnings. Why was nothing done in the 90's?
As I sad before this is about shifting focus and public opinion for political gain by the liberal left abetted with their willing allies in the press.

[satellite66]

This is from the City of New Orleans website. Did any of the Bush bashers in the media bother to read this? Click here to read the entire plan.
http://www.cityofno.com/portal.aspx?portal=46&tabid=26

"City of New Orleans Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan" annex I: Hurricanes
III. EVACUATION ORDER
A. Authority
As established by the City of New Orleans Charter, the government has jurisdiction and responsibility in disaster response. City government shall coordinate its efforts through the Office of Emergency Preparedness
The authority to order the evacuation of residents threatened by an approaching hurricane is conferred to the Governor by Louisiana Statute. The Governor is granted the power to direct and compel the evacuation of all or part of the population from a stricken or threatened area within the State, if he deems this action necessary for the preservation of life or other disaster mitigation, response or recovery. The same power to order an evacuation conferred upon the Governor is also delegated to each political subdivision of the State by Executive Order. This authority empowers the chief elected official of New Orleans, the Mayor of New Orleans, to order the evacuation of the parish residents threatened by an approaching hurricane.
B. Issuance of Evacuation Orders
The person responsible for recognition of hurricane related preparation needs and for the issuance of an evacuation order is the Mayor of the City of New Orleans. Concerning preparation needs and the issuance of an evacuation order, The Office of Emergency Preparedness should keep the Mayor advised.
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V. TASKS
A. Mayor
* Initiate the evacuation.
* Retain overall control of all evacuation procedures via EOC operations.
* Authorize return to evacuated areas.
B. Office of Emergency Preparedness
* Activate EOC and notify all support agencies to this plan.
* Coordinate with State OEP on elements of evacuation.
* Assist in directing the transportation of evacuees to staging areas.
* Assist ESF-8, Health and Medical, in the evacuation of persons with special needs, nursing home, and hospital patients in accordance with established procedures.
* Coordinate the release of all public information through ESF-14, Public Information.
* Use EAS, television, cable and other public broadcast means as needed and in accordance with established procedure.
* Request additional law enforcement/traffic control (State Police, La. National Guard) from State OEP.

Here are some pics of both transit and school buses that could have been used to shuttle people out of the area. Why are they sitting flooded over in their parking lots?
I saw a story about a 16 yr old kid that did take a bus and evacuate about 80 people. How come a 16 yr old has the sense to do it but not the mayor?

[nehope]

satellite66,

Please stop trying to confuse these people with facts and reality. If they want to blame the Great Satan (Bush) for this, they will and nothing will change their minds.

I personally am not happy with the federal government's response, but believe the far greater shame belongs to the mayor of New Orleans and the governor of Louisianna. It came as no surprise to me that the most corrupt local government and police department in the nation abandoned their own people

[bigdogdad]

For some reason nehope I agree with you. This political people are elected into office and know what the situation is. There city is below sea level. Do they have a plan, like worst case what if? Its a known fact, we have a city below sea level. Do we have a plan? NO, We do not have a plan, we are just here for the money. You have the great Reverend Jackson blaming Bush and his people. Bullsh-t. Blame your soul bothers running the city. They, like a lot of government elected officials, mind you not all, they are clowns. The blame here firstly lies on the government of New Orlens, point blank.

[quicksilverdon]

Bushbabble.
Yes, they should have evacuated.
What exactly is FEMA for? What is our National guard for?
I have a question - do you think the Arab crazies haven't watched our incompetent response to this disaster? What if the disaster wasn't natural and many hadn't evacuated?
Spin all you want, our government let these people down.
NOW we are seeing a reaction, when the stench finally reached Washington.

[thegoldpt]

I hate talking politics, but here is my view,

I get really tired of the whiners blaming the president, congress, guy down the street, e.t.c for all of the problems they are having. This is a diffcult time for those people, and i can understand the fustration some people are having, but this is time to suck it up, and quit pointing fingurs at who to blame for what not and get it cleaned up and move on. I feel terrible about the people who lost their lives, and my regrets go out to their familes, but it is time for America to be more united than ever and get out and do their part!

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[satellite66]

quote:Originally posted by quicksilverdon

Bushbabble.
Yes, they should have evacuated.
What exactly is FEMA for? What is our National guard for?
I have a question - do you think the Arab crazies haven't watched our incompetent response to this disaster? What if the disaster wasn't natural and many hadn't evacuated?
Spin all you want, our government let these people down.
NOW we are seeing a reaction, when the stench finally reached Washington.

You should change your handle to slowsilverdon since it seems that you can't understand simple facts. The Pres cannot order troops into an area without the request from the gov of the state. She refused to allow it. The first line of defense is the local and state government. They both failed miserably. You just want to blame Bush plan and simple. I realize that no matter what you read or hear your going to do that.
Your worried about what the arabs think are you? What do you think the terrorists think when they hear all the negative comments from the left about our troops and our unity.
Bush could come out today and say he found personally found a cure for cancer and you and the other Bush haters would complain about the lab rats that are going to be out of work.

[thegoldpt]

quote:Originally posted by satellite66

You should change your handle to slowsilverdon since it seems that you can't understand simple facts. The Pres cannot order troops into an area without the request from the gov of the state. She refused to allow it. The first line of defense is the local and state government. They both failed miserably. You just want to blame Bush plan and simple. I realize that no matter what you read or hear your going to do that.
Your worried about what the arabs think are you? What do you think the terrorists think when they hear all the negative comments from the left about our troops and our unity.
Bush could come out today and say he found personally found a cure for cancer and you and the other Bush haters would complain about the lab rats that are going to be out of work.

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[quicksilverdon]

quote:Originally posted by satellite66
The Pres cannot order troops into an area without the request from the gov of the state. She refused to allow it. The first line of defense is the local and state government.

Seems to me Eisenhower did that in Little Rock to enforce desegragation.
This is beyond local level - it's overwhelming. I was going to say any idiot could grasp that, but apparently not George.