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Old 17 Sep 2005, 04:39 pm
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Don, don't whine! If you believed in the devil you could blame him for making me do it. Hell, I did!
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Old 17 Sep 2005, 10:53 pm
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I don't think so! It's got to be BUSH'S fault! Where was he??? Running around New Orleans trying to fix the devastation in an area the size of Great Britain instead of watching those dirty rats! The guy just can't do anything right!! I think it must be a Republican plot to ruin the environment by endangering lab rats. Cindy Sheehan needs to camp out in front of the lab and protest until Bush comes to apologize to oppressed lab rats everywhere. Where is Jesse Jackson anyhow? I think there should be compensation for the rat families at least, with a cut going to him, of course. [}]sorry, don, the debbil made me do that. Oh wait, I said debbil, That probably offends the atheists! GOOD![}][}][}][}][}]
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Old 19 Sep 2005, 05:18 pm
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While I agree that Cindy Sheehan has lost focus on her original goal and has hurt her credibility by becoming a puppet of the news media, her original intention was admirable. Ask the President for some truthful answers.
She's not sitting on her ass on some forum slamming everone and everything that she disagrees with. She's taking action on her own and that's more than most of us would do regardless of the cause.

She's lost more defending this country than most of us have. To ridicule her for her actions is the same as spitting on her son's grave. He died defending her right to do exactly what she's doing, even if you or I don't like it.
Unfortunately, he died protecting our right to ridicule his mom too!

I'm going out and burning my soap box now.

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Old 19 Sep 2005, 05:35 pm
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How is that none of the big time dems are standing shoulder to shoulder with Sheehan? Could it be that they know she is a wackjob but are using her in their get Bush anyway possible agenda?
Have you heard the stuff she is saying? Not just the anti Bush soundbites the lefty media fed us but all the stuff she is saying? She has gone off the deep end? Grief? Maybe?
I concur she has the right to say what she wants but I find fault with the media that ignores those who have also suffered losses that are pro Bush.
I can't find it now but I recently read that she was not a big part of her sons life as is being portrayed now. I have also read that her family does not support her in her crusade.
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Old 19 Sep 2005, 08:43 pm
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I read the same thing. She was divorced from the kid's Dad and he and the child's stepmom raised him was what I read, with very little interest from Cindy. I am a Mom and respect the loss of anyone's child, but I think it is abominable if this woman paid little attention to her child when he was alive and now is using his death to promote her agenda. Her family has definitely spoken out and said they do not agree with her and her second husband is also divorcing her. Many of her statements are outrageous.
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Old 19 Sep 2005, 09:03 pm
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I read the same thing. She was divorced from the kid's Dad and he and the child's stepmom raised him was what I read, with very little interest from Cindy. I am a Mom and respect the loss of anyone's child, but I think it is abominable if this woman paid little attention to her child when he was alive and now is using his death to promote her agenda. Her family has definitely spoken out and said they do not agree with her and her second husband is also divorcing her. Many of her statements are outrageous.
Where did you read/see this? Because I did a search and didn't come up with anything like this.

It's best to leave this one alone. This is a no-win situation. Let her have this. I know I couldn't/wouldn't presume to tell a parent how to grieve.
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Old 19 Sep 2005, 09:32 pm
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I read the same thing. She was divorced from the kid's Dad and he and the child's stepmom raised him was what I read, with very little interest from Cindy. I am a Mom and respect the loss of anyone's child, but I think it is abominable if this woman paid little attention to her child when he was alive and now is using his death to promote her agenda. Her family has definitely spoken out and said they do not agree with her and her second husband is also divorcing her. Many of her statements are outrageous.
Where did you read/see this? Because I did a search and didn't come up with anything like this.



It's best to leave this one alone. This is a no-win situation. Let her have this. I know I couldn't/wouldn't presume to tell a parent how to grieve.

I'm not telling a parent how to grieve, and I am sorry for anyone losing a child regardless of the circumstances. But I do disagree with someone "using" the death to promote a political agenda. That being said, this is what I dug up from snopes about this issue specifically, and according to snopes, the piece they quote, which is what I read, is wrong:
"Cindy Sheehan
Claim: Cindy Sheehan's son, Casey, was raised by her ex-husband after the couple divorced and both remarried.

Status: False.

Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2005]

Another view of Cindy Sheehan

What is most interesting is that the press gives this little bunch of people who are protesting with Cindy so much air time without discussing Cindy's background. This is a case of more press bias.

It has been pointed out on just a couple of media outlets that Cindy divorced her first husband and left her son with him to be raised while she became a political activist for the Democrat Party. She had very little to do with her son in his growing years.

She remarried. The 1st husband remarried. The original father raised the son with his new wife. They miss their son and mourn the loss of his life. They have stated that they are very proud of their son and that they agree with the stance of America in Iraq and on terror. They said that their son was eager to serve and to go fight the terrorists in Iraq. He volunteered. How many news stations carried their interview? Not many.

So the son dies in Iraq and then Cindy shows up to make a stink. She gets an audience with Bush. That was not enough. She goes to Crawford and demands another audience. How many news stations carry the ongoing saga of Cindy? Practically all of them. Cindy didn't care about her son. She let another woman raise him. Cindy doesn't care about the other soldiers in Iraq. Cindy cares about her liberal, feminist agenda and about using the death of her son to lobby against Republicans and Bush. And the press is helping her. Why?

Then a few days ago, Cindy's 2nd husband filed for a divorce from Cindy. Cindy sounds like a feminist opportunist who did not have the sense of responsibility to even raise her own son. It looks like her 2nd husband is fed up with Cindy. We Middle Americans should be fed up with Cindy also. We should be fed up with the press. They manipulate us into their "group think" and into the responses that they want on their polls.

Origins: Casey Austin Sheehan, a 24-year-old U.S. Army Specialist from California who served as a mechanic with the First Cavalry Division out of Fort Hood, Texas, was killed in an ambush near Sadr City, Iraq, on 4 April 2004. Since Casey's death, his mother, Cindy Sheehan, has become an outspoken critic of U.S. military involvement in I
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Old 19 Sep 2005, 11:17 pm
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Thanks, Retro! I agree with you about using his death to promote a political agenda, but would prefer to question the motivation of her handlers rather than hers. I believe she is genuinely in pain and is angry which these a$$holes are using to further their own agendas. I suspect these people care very little about Cindy Sheehan or her son.
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Old 19 Sep 2005, 11:24 pm
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Thanks, Retro! I agree with you about using his death to promote a political agenda, but would prefer to question the motivation of her handlers rather than hers. I believe she is genuinely in pain and is angry which these a$$holes are using to further their own agendas. I suspect these people care very little about Cindy Sheehan or her son.
I think you are right on target there!
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