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Old 13 Mar 2007, 12:35 pm
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The lastest scandal, the firing of US attorneys because they weren't Republican enough http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17571977/
should cause an uproar, but is anybody shocked? Party above justice? Why not? There's just so much scandal to choose from...

The Neos went after Clinton (rightfully) for lying, but demand Libbey be pardoned. Clinton's lies didn't lead to thousands of deaths. Libbey should not be pardoned, he should be joined by Cheney, Rove and Ashcroft in prison.

Cheney actually flew to the MidEast in a plane called "The Spirit of Strom Thurmond" (Strom Thurmond campaigned for segregation in the South).

Elliott Abrams, an assistant secretary of state under Reagan, pleaded guilty in 1991 to two counts of withholding evidence from Congress over his role in the Iran-Contra affair. Bush I pardoned him; Bush II has appointed him to the National Security Council as director of its office for democracy, human rights and international operations. The post requires no Senate approval. I'm sure he's the best for the job.

US border agents were prosecuted in a rigged case - giving the message to other border agents - "Don't mess with the flow of drugs". Other Iran contra veterans, John Negroponte and Otto Reich have joined the new Bush team with Abrams. Remember the other part of Iran contra? The US State department was actually involved in drug shipments to raise money. Smell anything? $12 BILLION is unaccounted for in Iraq under Bremer. There are reports the US is funding Sunni groups to undermine Hezbollah & other Shia groups - the money has to come from somewhere - drugs or "found" in Iraq. And, HELLO - Al Qaeda is Sunni....

Our veterans are given third-rate medical treatment. 1 reason is there have actually been budget cuts year-to-year (support the troops - right); the other reason is a decision to "privatize" what was government functions to a company run by a Halliburton exec. Government employees may not be the most motivated in the world, but to have profit drive medical treatment of vets????

I like how Halliburton is moving headquarters to Dubai.. think they smell something? None of those pesky laws in Dubai...

New Orleans is still a disaster area.

We haven't gotten Bin Laden, and the Taliban and Al Qaeda are stronger than they have been in years.

Real wages for the average American have fallen.

The number of people without any health care has gone up.

The number of people in poverty has gone up.

BUT the amount of wealth held by the top 10% has gone up.

When I see polls that say 2/3 of Americans disapprove of the Bush administration, I have to ask - who are those that approve? OF WHAT???
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[quote]quote:Originally posted by quicksilverdon

The lastest scandal, the firing of US attorneys because they weren't Republican enough http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17571977/
should cause an uproar, but is anybody shocked? Party above justice? Why not? There's just so much scandal to choose from...

Party above justice.....hmmmmm, where were those FBI files of the pesky Republicans that Clinton hated found? Oh yeah, in the White House. How many Republicans were audited on direct orders from Clinton? Oh, and HOW MANY PROSECUTORS WERE FIRED SHORTLY AFTER JANET RENO WAS APPOINTED? Upon taking office, in an unexplained departure from the practice of recent Administrations, Miss Reno suddenly fired all 93 U.S. attorneys. She said the decision had been made in conjunction with the White House. Translation: The President ordered it....

The Neos went after Clinton (rightfully) for lying, but demand Libbey be pardoned. Clinton's lies didn't lead to thousands of deaths. Libbey should not be pardoned, he should be joined by Cheney, Rove and Ashcroft in prison.

I'm sorry, I missed where Clinton put in jail time?

Cheney actually flew to the MidEast in a plane called "The Spirit of Strom Thurmond" (Strom Thurmond campaigned for segregation in the South).

Don't worry, Pelosi is taking his plane, it will be alright! And you're right, Strom was a racist. He also later repudiated his earlier position. Ted Kennedy killed a girl. And he'll get elected until his liver falls out
Barney Frank admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman's Washington apartment for prostitution. A move to expel Frank from the House of Representatives failed and a motion to censure him failed, he still gets elected.
And what about Dollar Bill Jefferson, he's still in office, although, to give Nancy her due, she stripped him of committee membership! You go Girl!


Elliott Abrams, an assistant secretary of state under Reagan, pleaded guilty in 1991 to two counts of withholding evidence from Congress over his role in the Iran-Contra affair. Bush I pardoned him; Bush II has appointed him to the National Security Council as director of its office for democracy, human rights and international operations. The post requires no Senate approval. I'm sure he's the best for the job.

Ex cons get jobs all the time. Sometimes they even get pardoned. Hell, there are people all over this country who were found guilty of murder, then later pardoned. Maybe they are the best choice for their job?

US border agents were prosecuted in a rigged case - giving the message to other border agents - "Don't mess with the flow of drugs". Other Iran contra veterans, John Negroponte and Otto Reich have joined the new Bush team with Abrams. Remember the other part of Iran contra? The US State department was actually involved in drug shipments to raise money. Smell anything? $12 BILLION is unaccounted for in Iraq under Bremer. There are reports the US is funding Sunni groups to undermine Hezbollah & other Shia groups - the money has to come from somewhere - drugs or "found" in Iraq. And, HELLO - Al Qaeda is Sunni....

The case against those agents was a mirror of the 2001 David Sipes case. The prosecution looked to that case in the prosection of those two. And they did shoot the guy, and then cover it up. Do I think justice was served, no! But where was your outrage when it was the Clinton DOJ in 2001????

Our veterans are given third-rate medical treatment. 1 reason is there have actually been budget cuts year-to-year (support the troops - right); the other reason is a decision to "privatize" what was government functions to a company run by a Halliburton exec. Government employees may not be the most motivated in the world, but to have profit drive medical treatment of
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[quote]quote:Originally posted by bababooie

[quote]quote:Originally posted by quicksilverdon

The lastest scandal, the firing of US attorneys because they weren't Republican enough http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17571977/
should cause an uproar, but is anybody shocked? Party above justice? Why not? There's just so much scandal to choose from...

Party above justice.....hmmmmm, where were those FBI files of the pesky Republicans that Clinton hated found? Oh yeah, in the White House. How many Republicans were audited on direct orders from Clinton? Oh, and HOW MANY PROSECUTORS WERE FIRED SHORTLY AFTER JANET RENO WAS APPOINTED? Upon taking office, in an unexplained departure from the practice of recent Administrations, Miss Reno suddenly fired all 93 U.S. attorneys. She said the decision had been made in conjunction with the White House. Translation: The President ordered it....Yes, but these were already Republican replacemenst for Clinton appointees, but they didn't fall right enough.

The Neos went after Clinton (rightfully) for lying, but demand Libbey be pardoned. Clinton's lies didn't lead to thousands of deaths. Libbey should not be pardoned, he should be joined by Cheney, Rove and Ashcroft in prison.

I'm sorry, I missed where Clinton put in jail time?
Uuuh, because he wasn't found GUILTY like Scooter was.

Cheney actually flew to the MidEast in a plane called "The Spirit of Strom Thurmond" (Strom Thurmond campaigned for segregation in the South).

Don't worry, Pelosi is taking his plane, it will be alright! And you're right, Strom was a racist. He also later repudiated his earlier position. Ted Kennedy killed a girl. And he'll get elected until his liver falls out
Barney Frank admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman's Washington apartment for prostitution. A move to expel Frank from the House of Representatives failed and a motion to censure him failed, he still gets elected.
And what about Dollar Bill Jefferson, he's still in office, although, to give Nancy her due, she stripped him of committee membership! You go Girl!

what do those thgings have to do with Cheney being a bigot? You want others, there's Abramoff, DeLay, Foley, Cunnignham......

Elliott Abrams, an assistant secretary of state under Reagan, pleaded guilty in 1991 to two counts of withholding evidence from Congress over his role in the Iran-Contra affair. Bush I pardoned him; Bush II has appointed him to the National Security Council as director of its office for democracy, human rights and international operations. The post requires no Senate approval. I'm sure he's the best for the job.

Ex cons get jobs all the time. Sometimes they even get pardoned. Hell, there are people all over this country who were found guilty of murder, then later pardoned. Maybe they are the best choice for their job?Sure...

US border agents were prosecuted in a rigged case - giving the message to other border agents - "Don't mess with the flow of drugs". Other Iran contra veterans, John Negroponte and Otto Reich have joined the new Bush team with Abrams. Remember the other part of Iran contra? The US State department was actually involved in drug shipments to raise money. Smell anything? $12 BILLION is unaccounted for in Iraq under Bremer. There are reports the US is funding Sunni groups to undermine Hezbollah & other Shia groups - the money has to come from somewhere - drugs or "found" in Iraq. And, HELLO - Al Qaeda is Sunni....

[b] The case agai
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Okay, so the US Attorneys were fired because they didn't prosecute Democrats as aggressively as they were asked to - second question is what did the ones that DIDN't get fired agree to do????? [:0]

My point about the border agents is the message being given is that drug traffic is not to be impaired, and the former Iran-contra criminals are back at their disgusting tricks.
By the way, the border agents didn't report it because their Supervisor was there and aware... the prosecutor withheld evidence.

All the clamor for a pardon for Libbey, I say pardon the border agents who were doing their job!
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