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Old 29 Sep 2008, 07:24 pm
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Thanks CNN.com **Readers Note** This was only posted for Information's sake, not to cause or create any type of debate. Thanks!!



Dow Falls Even Further....


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The fate of the government's $700 billion financial bailout plan was thrown into doubt Monday as the House rejected the controversial measure.

The next steps were unclear. The abrupt defeat left the Bush administration and congressional leaders scrambling to figure out whether to renegotiate the bill and introduce it again as soon as Thursday or to try other options. Stock markets reacted violently. Investors who had been counting on the rescue plan's passage sent the Dow Jones industrial average down well over 700 points. The stock gauge closed 778 points lower - nearly 7%.

The measure which is designed to get battered lending markets working normally again, needed 218 votes for passage. But it came up 13 votes short of that target, with a final vote of 228 to 205 against. Two-thirds of Democrats and one-third of Republicans voted for the measure.

President Bush, who earlier in the day said he was confident the bill would pass, said he was "very disappointed" by the House vote. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, speaking at the White House, said he will continue to "use all the tools available to protect" the economy. Republican leaders, who had pushed their reluctant members to vote for the bill, pointed the finger for the failure at a speech given Monday by Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.

Pelosi, speaking on the House floor, had blamed the nation's economic problems on "failed Bush economic policies." House minority leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, said after the vote that passage would have been possible if it had not been for Pelosi's "partisan speech." Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., one of the main congressional negotiators, dismissed the GOP claim that Pelosi's speech was responsible for Republicans voting against the bill. "Because somebody hurt their feelings, they decided to hurt the country," Frank said. "That's not plausible."

'Our time has run out'

The four-hour debate that preceded Monday's vote included impassioned pleas for and against the measure from Democrats and Republicans alike. Party leaders told members that the only way to protect the economy from a spreading credit crunch was to vote for the difficult-to-swallow measure.

"Our time has run out," said Rep. Spencer Bachus, R-Ala., the ranking Republican on the House Financial Services Committee. "We're going make a decision. There are no other choices, no other alternatives."

Added Frank: "Today is the decision day. If we defeat this bill today, it will be a very bad day for the financial sector of the American economy." Boehner told his members, many of whom objected to the measure, that they had to accept something he and many of them found distasteful.

"If I didn't think we were on the brink of an economic disaster, it would be the easiest thing to say no to this," Boehner said. But he said lawmakers needed to do what was in the best interest of the country.

One lawmaker who voted against the bill, Rep. John Culberson, R-Texas, said the measure would leave a huge burden on taxpayers. "This legislation is giving us a choice between bankrupting our children and bankrupting a few of these big financial institutions on Wall Street that made bad decisions," he said. Culberson voted against the bill. Other conservative Republicans who voted "no" argued the bill would be a blow against economic freedom. Thaddeus McCotter, R-Mich., said the bill posed a choice between the loss of prosperity in the short term or economic freedom in the long term. He said once the federal government enters the financial marketplace, it will not leave. "The choice is stark," he said. Some Democrats voted against the bill for not doing enough to help taxpayers facing foreclosure or unemployment and accused proponents of moving too fast. "Like the Iraq war and Patriot Act, this bill is fueled by fear and haste," said Lloyd Doggett, D-Texas.

The runup to the vote
The debate followed a weekend of marathon negotiations between lawmakers and administration officials to hammer out legislation. Leading House Republicans signed on to the proposal on Sunday after expressing earlier reservations.

The core of the bill is based on Paulson's request for the authority to purchase troubled assets from financial institutions, so banks can resume lending and the credit markets, now virtually frozen, can begin to operate more normally. Democrats and Republicans - concerned about the potential cost - added several conditions and restrictions to protect taxpayers on the downside and give them a chance at some of the potential upside if the companies benefit from the plan. The turmoil in Washington comes amid great upheaval in the nation's financial system.

Banks and Wall Street firms, worried about both their own needs for cash and the condition of other institutions, essentially stopped loaning money to one another in recent weeks. That choked off the money being made available on Main Street in the form of mortgage loans, business loans and other consumer borrowing. The crisis stems from problems in mortgage-backed securities, which saw their value plunge as home prices have gone into their worst slide since the Great Depression and foreclosures have soared to record levels. In turn, the market for trillion of dollars worth of those securities held by major firms evaporated, sending them down to fire-sale prices and raising the risk of widespread failures among the nation's major financial firms.

On Monday, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., which insures deposits at failed banks, arranged for the sale of the banking assets of Wachovia the nation's No. 4 bank holding company, to Citigroup for $2.2 billion in stock.
That follows three weeks of other shocks: the Treasury Department's seizure of mortgage finance firms Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Wall Street firm Lehman Brothers' bankruptcy filing; rival Merrill Lynch purchase by Bank of America.

In addition, the Fed bailed out insurance giant American International Group loaning it $85 billion in return for a nearly 80% stake. Washington Mutual, the nation's largest savings and loan, became the largest bank failure in history. After months of attempts by regulators to fix the problems, the bailout was seen by many as the most comprehensive effort yet. Proponents vowed late Monday to keep trying. Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., a lead negotiator in the bailout bill negotiations said, "If we don't act promptly and effectively, then many people are going to lose their jobs
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DJI average back up today!
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ever get that roller coaster feeling !!
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Yup! I do!
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The dow is only one aspect aspect of our economy, don't worry, if we don't get any more bail outs, and we cut the regulations that force banks to make loans to minorities who cannot possibly pay back the loans, we may actually survive this. sure it may be hard for a while, just buckle up and SAVE SAVE SAVE!!!!
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Great time to buy...not yet...but soon when it really hits bottom.

Buy now, sell in 2 years...so many stocks are such good deals. Look at DELL, TTWO, so many stocks are a great deal and companies that will eventually be worth more.
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I really like the part where they already gave AIG tons of money and then the executives went on a $400,000 spending spree at an exclusive resort AND they're planning another get-away in the near future.

Shouldn't these people be put in jail or other punishments that I can think of but can't say because I'm a member of law enforcement ?
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