Bush or Kerry

[satellite66]

Arty I guess we don't love Saddam as much as you do or think as highly of him.
I have to admit that I enjoy your textbook DNC responses. I imagine you typing away and screaming like Howard Dean the whole time. [|)]

[Retro]

Hey, I just thought of something. Arty, ARE you Howard Dean??!!!![:I]

[amazingarthur]

I love Hussein? No, I don't love him. I do love our American troops and I don't think the death of nearly 2,000 of our boys and girls and the terrible wounds of thousands more was worth his capture. Not to mention the thousands of dead/injured innocent Iraqis.

Who truly loves America. The right or the left.

Keep cutting those veterans benefits. As long as you richies are getting the tax cuts and the big business contracts from the gov't.

You still provide NO FACTS about anything you defend. Let's hear it boys. Why are you a conservative?

[nehope]

How many of those 2000 died because of an insurgency encouraged and inspired by the empty rhetoric of losers like you? If this is your way of demonstrating love for our troops then I suggest you give them the opportunity to show their appreciation. You are a self-proclaimed entertainer; volunteer for the USO, fly over to Iraq, Kuwait or Afghanistan and demonstrate some of that love and support for the troops. Five minutes of listening to your crap and they'll have some demonstrating of their own to do.

[satellite66]

How about you and your dem friends cut spending? I know lets cut off the dem base from welfare and entitlements. Don't preach about how much you love the troops. You leftys do nothing but bad mouth them and their mission every chance you get. Your media shows nothing but doom and gloom over Iraq. Your comrades protest at vet hospitals. Terrorists use DNC talking points in their propoganda tapes. Aid and comfort to the enemy sums it up nicely. Any party that embraces Jane Fonda is not troop friendly.
I have no doubt that 3000 people died at the WTC because of liberal policys and Bill Clinton's malfesance. Not to mention the embassys and the USS Cole.

[Retro]

quote:You still provide NO FACTS about anything you defend. Let's hear it boys. Why are you a conservative?

First of all, I am not a boy. I am a 62-year-old woman who has spent my entire life helping my husband build a small business and teaching school and raising kids and volunteering and free-lance writing. I resent the hell out of anybody saying that because I am a conservative I must be some rich slacker. I am neither. I am a conservative because I believe in individual responsibility, limited government, equal opportunity for everyone to MAKE THEIR OWN SUCCESS, and traditional values, as well as tolerance for others different than me. I believe in freedom. I believe judges should do what the constitution says they should do, interpret the law, but not make it. I believe that there is no free lunch. And I believe in a strong national defense. I believe the country would be much better off with fewer frivolous lawsuits and support tort reform. I belive lower taxes encourage the creation of jobs and brings more, not less, revenue into the government and that FACT has been proved, over and over, by history, including when John F. Kennedy cut taxes. I believe nobody should lose their farm or small business the profits of which they have already paid taxes on by having their heirs taxed out of business or off the farm when they DIE. I believe the Fair Tax national sales tax should replace the IRS and income tax. And, I believe that liberal ideas are screwing up our country's defense, tax system, health care system, values, education system courts, legal system and political system. And those are FACTS!

[thegoldpt]

I will do with that, the U.S has every right to defend itself for any reason we see fit, including ridding its self of the leader of iraq, does anywone remember those shells filled with mustard gas, or were all the hippie lefties high on weed at that time. My point stands, you make your justification for iraq. I wonder how this country surivived on capitilsum until now, enacting socilaist views to try to help the "needy" and the "poor", who BTW created their own mess, we dont owe them anything, you make your own future, and in this country we have every oppurtinty to suceed and make a living, and when we turned those down, we have no one to blame but yourselves. I don't owe the Poor ANYTHING. I dont OWE the ILLEGALS anything, i certanly dont own the people of the nation anything either, these men and women are proud of thier service, and do it not because they OWE it to us, but because they feel there is something greater than sitting on a sidewalk with a protest sign, and accusing every republican of his or her problems. We are not the problem, you are, you make them, and wonder why we have to try 3x as hard to get anything done, because there is always a liberal infront of the bulldozer.

He is what bush did for me to justify war:

1. WMD- Found (wither the media will say it or not) Many missles were found that violated the U.N Agreement, as well as a prior violations of the geneva convention, saddam possess weapons that contained chemical substances and were ready for use, it was also found that he had a capibilty of making nuclear and biological weapons, and had deals with pakistani nuclear scientists.

2. Terror connections- When U.S army paratroopers landed in northern iraq, they found site in the eastern mountians of iraq, that contained AL-QUEDA finded terrorist camps, as well as many others directly recieveing money from saddam.

3. Moral Reasons- 1.5 MILLION DEAD- in his horrible camps- enough said

4. Scare Tactics- Remember libya? They told the world they has WMD's ready to use, we raised a fist, and muamar gadaffi melted like a bowl of ice cream.

5.Spread of democracy- Egypt, Palastine, Jordan, Saudi Arabia. All now have elections. I wonder why?

[thegoldpt]

Retro, i can understand that totally. Why are you being called a criminal for being a republican.........??????????????[xx(]

[thegoldpt]

And you say you love the troops????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!

My cousin came have from 6 or so months in iraq, and when he got off of the plane at the airport people cheered for him. And he replied and i quote "i did not think anywone cared about us anymore", you liberals who "support" the troops, are sure doing a crappy job at it. He still feels like **** thanks to you...... Now if you support our troops why do most of them feel this way?

[amazingarthur]

WOW! That is some rhetoric!

-The Iraq insurgency was caused by Democrats, not the invasion of their country.
This is just stupid.....Yes, the Iraqi people saw the Dems angry about an unjustified war and took up arms. Most of the world is angry about the invasion, but Might makes Right!

-9/11 is Clinton's fault.
Fact is Clinton met with Richard Clark weekly to discuss anti-terrorist plans. Clinton had people looking for Bin Laden and even shot some missles at him. The Clinton admin. is responsible for thwarting an attack on the Pope as well as a planned bombing in 1999ish. The Clinton Admin. get's an A in terms of it's anti-terror tactics. This guy.....uh........ About Bin Laden...."To tell you the truth I really don't think about it much."

FACT-Bush completely ignored Richard Clark's (served under Bush 1 and Clinton) warnings about Al Quida attack.

-The only people who applaud the soldiers are conservatives.
You would like people to believe that.

-The Dems are messing up your "values"- defense, tax system, health care system, values, education system courts, legal system and political system
Funny how capable we are of making your political lives so difficult considering we have NO power in federal gov't right now.

-Dems are responsible for crazy spending.
What president ended up with a surplus at the end of his terms? What president blew it all in less than 4 years?

-Republicans are spreading democracy.
This one I believe, one blood bath at a time they are bringing democracy to a country near you!

-Conservatives believe in limited gov't.
Until they are in power. Then they get involved in everything. State gay marriage California medical marijauna laws, Terri Schiavo, (Hey, leave it to the states, righties).

They do believe in limited gov't, especially when it comes to a big company needing tax breaks and laws overturned.


See through the smokescreen people, the right has hi-jacked your party. The Republicans in office now are not the Republicans of 10 years ago. Where is the fiscal responsibility? Where is the character?
Governor Bush and his chickenhawk staff are a criminal organization, they deserve to be in prison for what they have done to this country and the world.

One more time, here it goes. (Don't have time to do the full list, but here's a few choice ones)

THEY ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN BIG BUSINESS!
-Tax cuts for the rich, DURING A TIME OF WAR no less!
-Poor response and leadership to 2 US catastrophes, then no responsibility for it.
-They lied to everyone of us about the reasons for going to Iraq! Please explain it to me, how can you not be mad about that? (We are all over the place on this thread, why don't you just answer that question) Doesn't that say something about these people's character? Clinton has a fling and you're ready to throw him out? Why aren't you throwing this lying dirtbag Governor Bush out?

-The deregulation of business is the Republican's only cause. They have fooled all of you into believing they are moral, responsible, and infaliable. Therefore you vote for them everytime. Notice the price of everything is going up. You know what isn't going up? Wages. Big surprise. They are trying to kill the middle class.

This man is a criminal with no character. That is a FACT. Look at his track record. Give me Clinton any day!


The following is Bush's resume. You must be so proud....

Bush Resume
Under my administration the U.S. occupation authority in Iraq was unable to keep track of nearly $9 billion it transferred to government ministries, which lacked financial controls, security, communications and adequate staff, an inspector general has found.[1]
A federal judge, Joyce Hens Green, criticized me and my administration for holding many terrorist suspects at Guantanamo Bay Cuba in violation of their civil rights.[2]
My administration paid known journalists [Armstrong Willams, Maggie Gallagher, and Michael McManus] with taxpayer monies to promote my