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Old 03 Dec 2004, 02:15 pm
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Hey Gary04

Just thought I would ask you opinion since you seem to spend some time on the water ways. I am considering a boat made in Auburn, it is by C-Dory. The boat at this point seems to be more of a West Coast boat then an East Coast boat (although I am on the West Coast of the East Coast, just thought I would throw that in!). I am sure you must have seen or even know of this boat. Can you throw any input my way? Thanks. BTW, 7" draft, my water ways in the winter time are about 10".

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Old 03 Dec 2004, 10:00 pm
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I wouldn't be able to get out with that thing. Remember, in the winter the waters are shallower here. The way out to the Gulf by me in the winter is 10 inches max, some places 6 - 8 inches. That would be a nice dog house though! I would have someplace to go after a argument with the little lady.
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BigDogDad, you must be having a "two dog night" back there. It's midnight and the temp. is 58 degrees! Kinda' cold for FL isn't it? [:I]

Gary04 must be out on the town tonight; he never goes this long withot answering a call! [^]

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Old 04 Dec 2004, 02:09 am
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Hey, bigdogdad, 97% my boating/fishing is fresh-water so I do not consider myself a boat expert especially when it comes to a "salt-water yacht" [8D] like the one you may be looking to buy. I have heard that C-Dory Boats are known to have good build quality and ride well in rough water. There are also some real fine boats made in Florida that you may want to consider. If it were me, think I would look for the following: hull design/intended use, features, and cost. New boats depreciate even more than new cars so if you can find a pre-owned boat that meets your needs it probably would be the best way to go IMHO.

This might help:

"The C-Dory 22, 19 and 16 share the traditional dory hull that makes these boats so seaworthy and economical to run. What makes these hulls so economical and so easy to plane with relatively low horsepower is also what speed limits them in rough water. In ugly conditions a C-Dory is going to take you safely where you want to go but at its own pace unless you're prepared to suffer.

So you want a nautical version of the Volkswagen camper van? That's what you're going to get with the C-Dory 22 Cruiser. It's the most boat you can get in 22 feet and power with the lowest horsepower in a planning hull. It has basic, functional amenities that are quite comfortable and adequate if you're not looking for velour, teak and mirrors! And it isn't a Porsche! The CD22 will operate safely in conditions most of us would prefer to stay out of but if you want to remain comfortable you'll slow down and let the hull "do its thing". The C-Dory will motor along happily in the low to mid teens getting great fuel economy while keeping its occupants dry, comfortable and warm (especially with the Wallas stove/heater). With a very shallow draft and trim/tilt on the outboard you can sneak into small coves, estuaries and backwater areas where the typical 22-footer would never venture. Its light weight and low profile also make the CD22 a great boat for trailer use and for exploration of all the great places to boat that are usually denied to "cruisers".

The CD19 is built on the same hull as the CD22 but shortened in the mid section by 3'. In fact, from the helm station forward the CD19 and CD22 are identical. In order to reduce weight and cost the CD19 had been built with an open back cabin (usually closed in with a drop curtain or camper canvas). The cockpit can be completely hosed out for cleaning. The CD19 carries the same 40-gallons of fuel (in 2 20-gal tanks) standard as the CD22 and will run along quite nicely on a 70 to 75 horsepower 4-stroke.

The C-Dory 16 is the baby of the line. It shares the same dory hull as it's big sisters and is quite seaworthy but it is a small light boat so some prudence is called for although it's a "large" 16. The hardtop, quality construction and high class fittings make this boat quite unique. The 16 Cruiser is about the smallest boat you can get into with a full v-berth and will camp cruise two quite comfortably. They can be outfitted to the "9's" and are beloved by their owners. The Angler version frees up some cockpit space and gives up the v-berth (but still has storage forward) for the fisherperson and is great for crabbing and shrimping too. And with its hardtop it makes a pretty good Northwest runabout. The Cruiser works well with 40 to 50 hp, especially the 4-stroke engines. I've heard of the Angler's with as little as 30 hp doing pretty well."

Good luck and happy shopping: http://www.akmining.com/boat/c-dory.htm
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PS: If you are looking for a motor for the new boat I'm a big fan of Yamaha 4-stroke outboard motors. I have had one on my 18-foot SmokerCraft boat for four years now and its excellent performance, quiet/smooth-running, excellent fuel ecomomy have been outstanding features. A salmon-fishing friend of mine who has fished in salf-water for over 30 years has a couple 150hp Yamaha four-strokes on his 24-foot boat and "swears by them".
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Old 04 Dec 2004, 09:34 am
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Thanks for the info Gary04GT.. Had some of it but always enjoy your input here on the forums.

Funny you mention the VW van. Just yesterday my wife and I were talking about what all we could do to fix it up and I mention to her that it was kinda like what we did back in the '60's. Buy that van and put paneling up, put in a stereo with the box speakers, hang window coverings up, put in that shag carpeting and so on. I already have my eye on a 12" LCD DVD,CD,MP3, FM and TV ready monitor that can be hooked up to existing stereo or just plugged into the cig lighter. Has its own speakers also. Cool. Already looking into various sizes of teak to do the entire inside. Its going to be a blast. Besides, as I told Crewzin, have a little arguement and I have a place to go!I've checked the entire US for used ones and only 4 are available. Just not the size I want. The boat I have now is 8 yrs old with a 130 yamaha and talk about maintenance free. That engine requires nothing. The next boat will indeed be equiped with yamahas. Having said that, just what is the purpose of 1 engine vs. 2 (other then if one goes down you have another to get you home). The boat I'm looking at max hp to be put on is 100hp. They will equip it with 1 - 100hp motor or 2 - 50 hp motors. I know its cheaper to buy 1 engine vs 2 but are there any benefits in having 2? I might add, the easier for me to get on plane the better.

BTW, I am looking at this because I want to do a little traveling along the intercoastal waterways and with this I could pull upto a marina and dock for the night. With the added shore power, I would be able to enjoy the TV, have a fan or two running (I have seen a good deal on a portable marine A/C unit) and so on.

JPMS PT, actually for the next 3 -4 months our nitely temps will be in the 50 and 60's with a few nights even going into the 40's. Now thats cold. Thats why I had my house built with a fireplace Its also why I keep a fannel shirt in the garage, in the car and one at work, just incase I leave the house in my usual t-shirt and discover that its "freezing" out!! The boat I'm looking at comes with a stove that doubles as a heater. Day time temps now and for a while to come will hover around high 70's to the low 80's. Finally get to save a little money on the electrical bill. Also time to open up the windows and get some fresh air which the dogs love, they now sleep by the open windows. They were sleeping on the tile floors.
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Old 04 Dec 2004, 01:47 pm
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quote:Originally posted by bigdogdad
...I know its cheaper to buy 1 engine vs 2 but are there any benefits in having 2?...
Don't know the answer to your question but you should be able to find it here: http://www.yamaha-motor.com/news/dyn...bscribers.aspx

If you plan to use the boat only to "cruise the Florida coastline" and not take it very far out into the ocean then one motor would appear to be okay. Two motors might provide greater peace of mind. If I were considering getting a 22-24 foot boat for use off the coast of Florida think I would go with twin-100/125 Yamaha four-strokes.

My boat, which I only use in freshwater lakes,

has a 115-hp Yamaha four-stroke which has worked fine for me. When I selected the engine I looked at how much power I would need for its use--fishing, cruising, and a little water skiing. [?]
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Old 04 Dec 2004, 02:00 pm
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Gary04GT, thanks again.

I look at the site later tonight, got to do some yard work and alittle more garage cleaning today. The manufacture recommends no more then 100hp on this boat. I know what you mean about enough power to water ski, doing that with the boat I have now, pull guests on tubes also. With my present wife I can't even think of offshore, first she would xxxx a brick and then she would kill me! Therefore my crusin' the intercoastal waterways. Land on both sides. I'll have to call the factory up on Monday and ask about the power of a 22' boat with 100hp if its enough for water skiing. Just cruisin' and fishin' I'm sure its enough. Thanks again. Now to put on a little suntan lotion and get to work[8D]
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