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Old 23 Nov 2018, 10:00 pm
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Default 2005 Time Capsule - 17" Tire Concerns?

I just purchased a 2005 GT with under 6,000 miles. The car is in fantastic condition, never driven in the rain, and even still smells new inside! But, it also has the factory 17" tires from 2005. I drove them 400 miles back to the house after I bought it and they did fine. Anyone have a story to share on how long tires last? I did some reading online and what I saw said manufacturers recommend no longer than 10 years... These are 13 years old. 85% of my driving will be around town and the other 15% will be 30-180 mile trips on occasion. Am I safe to keep running them or do I need to immediately replace?
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Old 23 Nov 2018, 10:27 pm
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That's a sweet looking 'vert



How did you happen to find that from the little old lady that never drove it

Be careful on those long trips of yours, in one trip back home you almost put as many miles on it as the previous driver did per year

I hope you get to enjoy your "new" 13-year old PT for a very long time

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Old 23 Nov 2018, 10:50 pm
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I just purchased a 2005 GT with under 6,000 miles. The car is in fantastic condition, never driven in the rain, and even still smells new inside! But, it also has the factory 17" tires from 2005. I drove them 400 miles back to the house after I bought it and they did fine. Anyone have a story to share on how long tires last? I did some reading online and what I saw said manufacturers recommend no longer than 10 years... These are 13 years old. 85% of my driving will be around town and the other 15% will be 30-180 mile trips on occasion. Am I safe to keep running them or do I need to immediately replace?
My dad had just gotten a new set of tires on his truck before he got too bad and had to go to the nursing home. That truck sat unmoved for over ten years. After I got it running, I noticed that the tired had flat spots on them. So I aired them up to about 50 lbs each and took off from home about 65 miles away. They rounded out pretty well by the time I got home. My daughter drove that truck for about a year and half after her car got wrecked. That was eight years ago. And the tires still look okay today.

When I was a kid, daddy bought a 1947 Dodge Power Wagon. It was originally a military vehicle and appeared to have the original tires. That was in 1977. So they were 30 years old then. We never had in problems out of them.

While working at the diesel shop while in high school, a good customer with some trucks lost his mom. After she died, he wanted us to go over and get her car running. This was around 1982. The car was a 1976 Chevy Caprice and had less then 15,000 miles on it. It still smelled new inside. The tires were a little low so we aired them up to drive it back to the shop about a mile away. The tires had cracks in them like spider webs and we almost didn't get it back the diesel shop before a couple of them leaked down.

What's the point of these stories? It's impossible to know how long a set of tires will last. A lot of variables go into that; brand, model, materials, weather, hot, cold, humidity, sunlight, and many others. Manufacturers will often give a lifetime for their tires. But that's just one of their engineers taking a guess and/or their marketing folks trying to get repeat sales. In the end, you have to decide for yourself based on your own risk tolerance.

Because of the way I was raised and my access to resources for recovery, my risk tolerance is very high for the cars I personally drive. If those tires looked good I'd watch them for a week or two of heavy driving. If they showed no signs of cracking, warping, de-laminating or dry rot, I'd figure they were good and drive them until they wear out. But again, that's just me. You may decided that they are way passed their recommended lifespan and decide not to take a chance.
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That's a sweet looking 'vert



How did you happen to find that from the little old lady that never drove it

Be careful on those long trips of yours, in one trip back home you almost put as many miles on it as the previous driver did per year

I hope you get to enjoy your "new" 13-year old PT for a very long time
I KNOW!!! Previous owner babied it since new. You are right, he only put around 400 miles per year on it. It stayed under a cover in the garage most of the time. It was only driven on nice Sunday afternoon pleasure runs. SO, the tires don't have any cracking or sun damage. They felt smooth all the way up to about 80mph. She's still in "break-in" mode right now, LOL. I do plan on driving it daily so it's hard not to keep using them.
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Old 23 Nov 2018, 11:40 pm
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Handy_Cruiser wrote: If those tires looked good I'd watch them for a week or two of heavy driving. If they showed no signs of cracking, warping, de-laminating or dry rot, I'd figure they were good and drive them until they wear out.

Thanks Handy! This seems like some sound advice. I'll watch them closely in the upcoming weeks to see how they hold up - fingers crossed!
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Handy_Cruiser wrote: If those tires looked good I'd watch them for a week or two of heavy driving. If they showed no signs of cracking, warping, de-laminating or dry rot, I'd figure they were good and drive them until they wear out.

Thanks Handy! This seems like some sound advice. I'll watch them closely in the upcoming weeks to see how they hold up - fingers crossed!
If you're puttering around town, no highway speeds, no 'fast' driving, then sure they're fine if they aren't cracked and hold a seal.

But personally for daily highway driving I wouldn't use tires that sat for over 5 years. How much is your life worth, a free set of tires ?
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Handy_Cruiser wrote: If those tires looked good I'd watch them for a week or two of heavy driving. If they showed no signs of cracking, warping, de-laminating or dry rot, I'd figure they were good and drive them until they wear out.

Thanks Handy! This seems like some sound advice. I'll watch them closely in the upcoming weeks to see how they hold up - fingers crossed!
Yup!
Look for sidewall cracking.

I bought a 2003 with relatively new tires.
But, they were years in the CA desert. Yes, I drove it to Oklahoma , but....
Cracking from the sidewalls into the tread areas.
I replace them immediately!~
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I KNOW!!! Previous owner babied it since new. You are right, he only put around 400 miles per year on it.
And every second time they drove it, they hit a kerb.

Why don't you play Russian Roulette instead? At least you'll only kill yourself and not a kid at a bus-stop.

Mate, you had a steal. It you can't afford 300 quid for a set of tyres to protect it, you and innocent bystanders, you shouldn't have bought it.
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Yup!
Look for sidewall cracking.

I bought a 2003 with relatively new tires.
But, they were years in the CA desert. Yes, I drove it to Oklahoma , but....
Cracking from the sidewalls into the tread areas.
I replace them immediately!~
You won't see the fault in a 10 year old tyre that kills you. It will just blow and you'll odds on to lose control, hit a low wall and end up on your roof.

Ask me how I know this.
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Old 25 Nov 2018, 02:40 pm
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And every second time they drove it, they hit a kerb.

Why don't you play Russian Roulette instead? At least you'll only kill yourself and not a kid at a bus-stop.

Mate, you had a steal. It you can't afford 300 quid for a set of tyres to protect it, you and innocent bystanders, you shouldn't have bought it.
This is what I mean by "risk tolerance". It's something I deal with everyday at work. Different people gauge risk very differently. And in no way am I saying that Sinbad is wrong in his concerns.

For me personally, my take on tires is much different than Sinbad's. However, I feel almost exactly the same as he does about any work performed on one my vehicles by a shop. Most mechanics don't get paid much where I live. So I really don't like trusting my life or the life of my family to some mechanic that works for what is often way too low a paycheck for the skill and smarts required. But I'm good with older tires that I have inspected myself.

I'm not saying one person's risk tolerance is right and someone else's is wrong. Anytime we driver any vehicle that's over seven years old and anytime we use any non-OEM parts, modify it or let anyone other than the dealership work on it, we are going outside of what the original engineers intended. And personally, I work everyday with other engineers and I don't trust many of them either. So everyone has to ultimately decide these things for themselves. And the only thing I see (and can actually trend based on our data) is that many of us get more afraid of everything as we get older.
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