PT Cruiser Forum  
Advertisements
       

Go Back   PT Cruiser Forum > General Forums > PT Cruiser Videos

PT Cruiser Forum

Advertisements
Timing belt tensioner install

 
Like Tree4Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 27 Mar 2016, 09:58 pm
Fresh Cruiser
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 18
Default Timing belt tensioner install

So I had another mechanic look at my crank no start 04 pt, One valve was only 30lbs but the others were good. He said it could be that the timing belt slipped, but maybe it needs some valve work. So I replaced the water pump and was ready for the new belt, when lo and behold I couldn't get the tensioner on right. I put the pin in the slot, but the tensioner gets stuck on the slot where the pin is. Check out my vid to get a good visual. Why is this happening? It just doesn't make sense. Thanks for any input, Conrad https://youtu.be/Q0lFnAS27kI

Last edited by conrad; 28 Mar 2016 at 11:01 am.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 28 Mar 2016, 08:44 am
Handy_Cruiser's Avatar
Obsessed Cruiser
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 7,605
Default Re: Timing belt tensioner install

The problem may be that you are trying to set the tension without the belt in place. The whole point is to set the tension against the belt. There are directions online on how to do this. And there should have been some that came with your tensioner. Also, assure you are using the new back plate that came with the new tensioner and not the old back plate. The new one may be different. Read this as a primer.

http://www.justanswer.com/chrysler/3...-2-4-code.html
__________________

Last edited by Handy_Cruiser; 28 Mar 2016 at 08:50 am.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 28 Mar 2016, 11:01 am
Fresh Cruiser
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 18
Default Re: Timing belt tensioner install

I couldn't get the belt on and got ahead of myself. I'm sure the tension will pull the tensioner down. thanks for your input
Handy_Cruiser likes this.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 28 Mar 2016, 12:25 pm
Senior Cruiser
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: SW PA
Posts: 1,162
Default Re: Timing belt tensioner install

Quote:
Originally Posted by conrad View Post
I couldn't get the belt on and got ahead of myself. I'm sure the tension will pull the tensioner down. thanks for your input
The pin should be inserted with the tensioner compressed, this is the old style used on early PT Cruisers. You pull the pin after the belt is installed to put tension on the belt.
If you already pulled the pin, the shaft must be pushed back into the cylinder slowly to avoid damaging it, then insert the pin to hold it.

I'd do another compression check, before you assemble, if one cylinder has 30 pounds again praying is not going to help. You have other issues.
__________________
Addicted to Mopar You can tell how old I am..
65 Dodge Coronet 6 cyl 2dr Post
66 Ply Satellite with 273 engine swap to 69 340 4spd
70 340 4spd Dart Swinger "Those were the days my friend"
73 Charger SE
Had a few Vetts on the way 69, 85
Several Neons some flips
01 Sebring flip
Cruiser's 01, 220K Gone to a new home
Cruiser 03 133K Gone to a new home
Cruiser 06 110K Project
Cruiser 05 Ltd 120,809 bought with broken belt Oct2015
May 16 Resurrected to once again roam the streets.

20 Miles South Of Pittsburgh

Last edited by JoeX; 28 Mar 2016 at 12:28 pm.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 28 Mar 2016, 01:26 pm
Fresh Cruiser
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 18
Default Re: Timing belt tensioner install

thanks for your response Joe. Did you see the video I made? The pin goes in the slot right? If I turn the allen wrench in the square it spins the inner part and sways as it turns around. I assumed it does that to get the belt on. The part I'm stuck on is getting the grooved part on the tensioner, lined up with the pin on the tensioner which I've placed between the mounting bracket tangs. When I bolt it in, the slotted metal on the tensioner is hitting the tangs. When I torque the square, it only makes the tensioner wobble a bit, so as to give room for the belt install. What makes, or how do I make the pin that's on the tensioner move? Also if I have to do valve work does the timing belt have to come off? Thanks for your time, I really appreciate it. Conrad
Handy_Cruiser likes this.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 28 Mar 2016, 02:21 pm
Handy_Cruiser's Avatar
Obsessed Cruiser
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 7,605
Default Re: Timing belt tensioner install

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeX View Post
The pin should be inserted with the tensioner compressed, this is the old style used on early PT Cruisers. You pull the pin after the belt is installed to put tension on the belt....
I believe the PT in question is a 2004 model with the later model tensioner that must be adjusted once on the engine. And that's what the video shows.

Let's not confuse this with the older style tensioner that came pre-loaded with a "grenade" style pull pin. That was on 2001 and 2002 PT's.
JoeX likes this.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 28 Mar 2016, 03:18 pm
Senior Cruiser
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: SW PA
Posts: 1,162
Default Re: Timing belt tensioner install

Quote:
Originally Posted by Handy_Cruiser View Post
I believe the PT in question is a 2004 model with the later model tensioner that must be adjusted once on the engine. And that's what the video shows.

Let's not confuse this with the older style tensioner that came pre-loaded with a "grenade" style pull pin. That was on 2001 and 2002 PT's.
I didn't watch the video first time around because it really sounded like the old tensioner, I was wrong.

The "pin" is the spring, and after assembly of the timing components, hand tighten the tensioner bolt , install the belt, (sometimes you do a little struggling to get the belt on , rotate the body of the tensioner with (the last one I did had a 1/4 square hole for a ratchet to rotate the body) until the "PIN" actually the spring arm is between the adjusting points then you tighten it, ( must be torqued to spec) The spring arm doesn't move, the offset tensioner body rotates to apply and maintain tension on the belt.
Handy_Cruiser likes this.
__________________
Addicted to Mopar You can tell how old I am..
65 Dodge Coronet 6 cyl 2dr Post
66 Ply Satellite with 273 engine swap to 69 340 4spd
70 340 4spd Dart Swinger "Those were the days my friend"
73 Charger SE
Had a few Vetts on the way 69, 85
Several Neons some flips
01 Sebring flip
Cruiser's 01, 220K Gone to a new home
Cruiser 03 133K Gone to a new home
Cruiser 06 110K Project
Cruiser 05 Ltd 120,809 bought with broken belt Oct2015
May 16 Resurrected to once again roam the streets.

20 Miles South Of Pittsburgh

Last edited by JoeX; 04 Apr 2016 at 01:46 am.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 03 Apr 2016, 10:04 pm
Fresh Cruiser
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 18
Default Re: Timing belt tensioner install

I crank the tensioner, I can't get the old or the new belt on. There's about 3/4 to an inch, I'm pretty strong, there's no way it's going over the tensioner. I have to have something wrong. I was wondering about the 30lb's. The car just wouldn't start one kinda cold morning, there was never any indication that anything was wrong, no sounds, backfires, or smells. It was low on oil though, I didn't see anything on the stick, and the oil pressure sending light came on. I was told it could be a burnt valve, or a bent one. I'm enjoying the work, should I begin checking into those possibilities? When I did take off the timing cover I noticed everything was aligned and none of the teeth had been damaged. It looked really good, the belt was tight with no cracks. Do yall think I should put the new belt on and test it, or try to find out the reason for the 30lbs? thanks in advance Conrad
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 03 Apr 2016, 10:08 pm
Veteran Cruiser
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Lake Wales, FL
Posts: 3,271
Default Re: Timing belt tensioner install

I'd leave the belt alone and try to find out why there's only 30 lbs on the one cylinder. Could be a broken valve, a spring, maybe some carbon holding it open, etc. Pull the cover and see if there's anything obvious staring at you. I DON'T think it's the timing, but I'm not a mechanic either. Just an old shade tree tinkering for 45 years.
__________________


I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery. Thomas Jefferson
Charlie
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 06 Apr 2016, 10:39 pm
Fresh Cruiser
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 18
Default Re: Timing belt tensioner install

thanks everyone, I took the head off, and poured water in the intake and exhaust, one of them is leaking. I finally found the reason for the crank almost start. Now I just have to have it rebuilt and put it all back together. It was my first real project, and was quite rewarding.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
tensioner activation, tensioner stuck, timing belt tensioner


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
04 PT Timing belt tensioner havoc999 Tech & Performance Forum 2 08 Mar 2015 08:54 pm
How to install and adjust timing belt tensioner wannabemechanic Tech & Performance Forum 7 04 Oct 2014 10:43 pm
timing belt tensioner neuner Tech & Performance Forum 3 08 Jul 2014 01:38 pm
Timing belt tensioner help faysCruzn Feedback and Support 8 16 Oct 2013 08:36 am
Timing belt tensioner Jeepertim Tech & Performance Forum 9 25 Nov 2011 11:39 am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:39 pm.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2 © 2011, Crawlability, Inc.
vB.Sponsors