Stage 1 joke

[JoePro]

Guys,

you have been less than spoiled, but you have had your wallets emptied.

You won't find hard-core racers fiddling wround with the siully "stage 1" hoax. Stage 1 is a 15 to 25 hp "gain" that can be had without spending a ton of money with two cheap parts.

Boost gauge & manual boost controller.

Boost gauge: $25
Manual controller: $15
Net gain on pump fuel (97 octane) = 35 to 45 hp easy.

a "Cheapie chiller" or a windshield wiper pump with 4 to 6 outlet ject than sprays a 70/30 water/alcohol mix onto the intercooler at the press of a switch or at WOP costs about $20, and yields another 15 ponies on a hot day.

Save your money. Forget the "Mass Market Dupe of Stage 1. Do what the racers do.

[SuGamer]

quote:Originally posted by JoePro

Guys,

you have been less than spoiled, but you have had your wallets emptied.

You won't find hard-core racers fiddling wround with the siully "stage 1" hoax. Stage 1 is a 15 to 25 hp "gain" that can be had without spending a ton of money with two cheap parts.

Boost gauge & manual boost controller.

Boost gauge: $25
Manual controller: $15
Net gain on pump fuel (97 octane) = 35 to 45 hp easy.

a "Cheapie chiller" or a windshield wiper pump with 4 to 6 outlet ject than sprays a 70/30 water/alcohol mix onto the intercooler at the press of a switch or at WOP costs about $20, and yields another 15 ponies on a hot day.

Save your money. Forget the "Mass Market Dupe of Stage 1. Do what the racers do.

Yes, but you will get overboost CEL's on Stage 0, unless you do something like the EDTIP mod.

[Mean Green]

So how do you get the enhancements?

Manual Transmission Increased WOT and part throttle boost
Enhanced 1st gear boost schedule for a higher performance launch
Optimized calibration for the MOPAR blow off valve conversion kit
Improved turbo response
Boost hold feature during WOT shifts
Soft rev limiter

Automatic Transmission
Increased WOT and part throttle boost
Optimized calibration for the MOPAR blow off valve conversion kit
Improved turbo response
Performance optimized transmission calibration

You won't get it with a mbc or ebc. You will throw a CEL, too. We are talking DCX here and you can't get the keys for the programming for the PCM. Stage 1 gives you larger parameters and from there you can go piggyback and you can control your A/F, timing, etc. Stage 1 is a building block. Now stage 2 has been taken off by the SRT4 folks and gone back to stage 1 to build on. I wouldn't have done stage 2 because I didn't need it. My GT was beyond stage 2 because I used stage 1 as a building block. I will put stage 1 on my SRT4 and go from there. [?]

[Gary04GT]

[AZ_IceMan]

quote:Originally posted by JoePro

Guys,

you have been less than spoiled, but you have had your wallets emptied.

You won't find hard-core racers fiddling wround with the siully "stage 1" hoax. Stage 1 is a 15 to 25 hp "gain" that can be had without spending a ton of money with two cheap parts.

Boost gauge & manual boost controller.

Boost gauge: $25
Manual controller: $15
Net gain on pump fuel (97 octane) = 35 to 45 hp easy.

a "Cheapie chiller" or a windshield wiper pump with 4 to 6 outlet ject than sprays a 70/30 water/alcohol mix onto the intercooler at the press of a switch or at WOP costs about $20, and yields another 15 ponies on a hot day.

Save your money. Forget the "Mass Market Dupe of Stage 1. Do what the racers do.

I realize you're new and all, but first off, a little research goes a long way, secondly, where are you going to get 97 octane in most parts of the country at a gas pump, and why would you dish that kind of cash out repeatedly when you could spend $350 and not have to tune a single thing. You don't have to do things the sloppy hard way to be a "real racer"

[Cal Cruzer]

JoePro(?) is a one post wonder. Ignore him. I think trolling is against TOS of the site. Maybe admin will do something?

[JohnM]

....the name JoePro. Dripping ain't it.

[dpj450]

Stage 1 was worth it to me just to get the Auto Trans shift improvement. I seem to get better fuel economy also. It is like electronic magic. It used to be hard work and lots of money to get such a "seat of the pants" gain. Plus you get that neat little Stage 1 Badge.....

[Topless in Cali]

Something tells me Joepro hasn't been reading many of the posts on this web site. My 05 has huge problems once a cell is thrown, I know, I use a boost controller and it throws codes after just a few runups to 15PSI. And the EDTIP doesn't work on my 05. The PCM gets wise to that after about 20 miles of driving. I have read all sorts of things about fooling the S0 PCM, but none so far has worked for me for more than a week of driving. At this point, S1 is the ONLY way my car is ever going to see the north side of 13PSI without codes.

[SuGamer]

quote:Originally posted by Topless in Cali

Something tells me Joepro hasn't been reading many of the posts on this web site. My 05 has huge problems once a cell is thrown, I know, I use a boost controller and it throws codes after just a few runups to 15PSI. And the EDTIP doesn't work on my 05. The PCM gets wise to that after about 20 miles of driving. I have read all sorts of things about fooling the S0 PCM, but none so far has worked for me for more than a week of driving. At this point, S1 is the ONLY way my car is ever going to see the north side of 13PSI without codes.

Did you plug up both the vac line and the piece on the upcharge hose or pipe?