Skip stage 1 and go directly to stage 2?

[oldfashionedgent]

Hey all I used to have an 05 PT Classic but then I had to sell it to my parents when I moved to the UK.
I am now going to be buying an 05 GT!!! WOOOO!!!
I have been looking at a lot of mods and it seems to me that buying the stage 2 turbo upgrade instead of the stage 1 would make a lot more sence.
That is of course if the stage 2 that I was looking at would work on the GT, the only stage 2 I could find was for the SRT-4, I am guessing they are compatible?

Let me know what you think.

[quicksilverdon]

There is no stage 2 for PTs. In order to put in Stage 1, the vehicle VIN has to be entered - can't do it.

[oldfashionedgent]

Ok I feel stupid now!

[Gold GT]

No worries A better question is WHY IS THERE NO STAGE 2 KIT FOR THE PT

[Gold GT]

Search P4510257 for more info.

[Mean Green]

Originally Posted by Gold GT

No worries A better question is WHY IS THERE NO STAGE 2 KIT FOR THE PT

The weak automatic transmission couldn't handle it.

[oldfashionedgent]

Originally Posted by Gold GT

Search P4510257 for more info.

So your saying that there is a stage 2 turbo upgrade for the PT Cruiser?

[Gold GT]

No they never released it. But if the auto tranny was the only prolbem they should've at least hooked it up for those of us with a 5 spd Oh well guess we just have to spend more and upgrade ourselves. Thanks' for the info Mean Green!

[Dream4]

I am not sure about the Trans won't take it line, as to why they did not make a Stage 2 for the PT, as if you have a '05 or newer and add Stage 1, you are actuatly are getting the So called Stage 2 power levels. For '05 and up you upgrade to 235hp 275 ft-lbs torque measured at the Wheels.
The original Stage kits up to and including '04 were measured at the crank, you have 10 to 15% loss with a 5 speed manual trans and 20% with the auto trans.

The original specs in the '04 Mopar manual are:
Stage 1 235 hp 240ft-lbs
Stage 2 260 hp 280 ft-lbs
Stage 2 with toys (SRT4 only) 265 hp 280 ft-lbs
Stage 2 (High Octane Mode) 280 hp 300 ft-lbs
Stage 3R (SRT4 only) 310 hp 325 ft-lbs
Stage 3R (SRT4 only Hi Octane Mode) 355 hp 365 ft-lbs

With the '05 and up measured at the wheels at least 5 of us over on PT Crew have dyno'd our cars, (mine just this past Saturday) and we all made 235 +/-5 whp 290 to 305 ft-lbs torque to the wheels, now if you add back in the trans losses 20% for the auto you have 282 hp at the crank, 360 ft lbs at the crank.

So for the '05 and newer with Stage 1 and a free flow exhaust and take the restrictions out of the stock air box and intake tube you are past the original PT and SRT4 Stage 2 specs.

Now I will not go any higher until I have my auto trans upgraded for more power.

[Mean Green]

Originally Posted by Dream4

I am not sure about the Trans won't take it line, as to why they did not make a Stage 2 for the PT, as if you have a '05 or newer and add Stage 1, you are actuatly are getting the So called Stage 2 power levels. For '05 and up you upgrade to 235hp 275 ft-lbs torque measured at the Wheels.
The original Stage kits up to and including '04 were measured at the crank, you have 10 to 15% loss with a 5 speed manual trans and 20% with the auto trans.

The original specs in the '04 Mopar manual are:
Stage 1 235 hp 240ft-lbs
Stage 2 260 hp 280 ft-lbs
Stage 2 with toys (SRT4 only) 265 hp 280 ft-lbs
Stage 2 (High Octane Mode) 280 hp 300 ft-lbs
Stage 3R (SRT4 only) 310 hp 325 ft-lbs
Stage 3R (SRT4 only Hi Octane Mode) 355 hp 365 ft-lbs

With the '05 and up measured at the wheels at least 5 of us over on PT Crew have dyno'd our cars, (mine just this past Saturday) and we all made 235 +/-5 whp 290 to 305 ft-lbs torque to the wheels, now if you add back in the trans losses 20% for the auto you have 282 hp at the crank, 360 ft lbs at the crank.

So for the '05 and newer with Stage 1 and a free flow exhaust and take the restrictions out of the stock air box and intake tube you are past the original PT and SRT4 Stage 2 specs.

Now I will not go any higher until I have my auto trans upgraded for more power.

They lied. I have Stage 2 No Toys, a TBE and a few bolt ons on my '05 SRT-4 and I'm running 287 hp and 310 torque at the wheels so around 336 hp and 360 torque at the crank. So you're still a ways away from S2 numbers. They lied about all of the Stage kits.

As for the auto tranny being too weak for Stage 2 line you are on PT Crew. Everybody there knows the 41TE auto tranny is weak. Heck, I lost one on a 150 hp NA PT. DCX knew they'd open a hornet's nest if they went ahead with S2 and S3 for the PT. 95% of all PTs are automatic.