4 Weeks to order Stage 1????

[Mike-in-Orange]

Went and talked to my dealer today, asked him to get together all the info we'd need for me to go S1. Service Manager called up a couple of techs who have installed S1 in the past, mostly SRT4s, and one of them confirmed that the '04 S1 upgrade is the PCM only - injectors are OK as is. Both guys with experience say that it takes a minimum of 4 weeks to get the parts in because they have to order it with my VIN number so it can be programmed before it ships. Have I been missing something on this forum?? Is this correct???? In this age of instant gratification I wanted it done NOW! Well, next week actually.

tthrift, you've ordered/installed a bunch of these. Is this 4 week wait correct?

[go-vair]

[}]My son-in-law works parts at a Chrysler dealer, and he ordered mine one week and got it the next. 4 weeks--?????? Just had it put in a couple days ago.[^]

[brngrhd]

i work at a dealer also it took less than a week. [:I]

[Mike-in-Orange]

go-vair, can you confirm or dispell the rumor that S1 for an '04 is just the PCM? These guys are telling me it includes the injectors, but I thought the stock '04 injectors were essentially the S1 bits. Not that this seems to change the price at all, but what the heck.

[Cal Cruzer]

'04's are pcm only. Install time should be consideralby less since they don't have to pull the upper manifold. They must not have done an '04 yet. The PCM is about a 20-30 minute job including a coffee break. The 04 has the bigger injectors from the factory.

[Mike-in-Orange]

Is there any chance that a Stage 1 upgrade for a 180HP is different than doing it to a GT? I know the final result is the same.

[go-vair]

I've heard the same thing that Cal Cruzer said that the '04 already has the bigger injectors already installed.

[go-vair]

[:I]Not that familar with the 180 HP Turbo, but I have read somewhere that the S1 on the '04 180 does bring it up to the GT HP. Don't know how true that is?? It seems like a big jump from 180 HP to 240HP with just the PCM and larger injectors??

[Mike-in-Orange]

My understanding is that the only real difference between the GT and the 180 is the PCM. Maybe the 180 uses the injectors from the '03. I did read on another board where a guy had S1 installed into his son's 180 and he felt it was the same final result as S1 on his own GT. I think I'll head over there and pick his brain. Hopefully tthrift or 3barboost will have a look at this thread.

Scratch that. Here's the thread, and it's on this forum! http://www.ptcruiserlinks.com/forum/...?TOPIC_ID=4689

[ElectricBlueGT]

Mike,

The Stage 1 kit for a 2004 PT is PCM only. If you have a 2004 PT turbo , you have the injectors already, whether or not you have a 180 or 220 HP turbo.

The only differences between the 180 and 220 HP engines are the PCMs and gas quality (regular vs. super unleaded).

FRM has installed the Stage 1 kit on his son's (?) 180 HP turbo. He said it works just fine, even with the non-Autostick automatic tranny that comes standard with the 180 HP engine.

Scott