180HP Turbo Lite + S1 =

[Mike-in-Orange]

quote:SDTurbo Posted - 02/27/2004 : 4:02:58 PM
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Thats a great picture!! I am working on getting mine for my 04 Lite. I work at a Chrysler dealership so I'll be able to get it cheap!

Hey SDTurbo, can I assume the SD stands for San Diego?? If so, can I ask what dealer you work for and what their take is on mods? By the way, you are going to be amazed at what S1 does for a Turbo Lite like you and I have, and I don't mean just launching from a dead stop. 40-60mph jumps are too dang cool - I love that feeling of being pinned into the seat![8)]

[PTCumming]

I need some clairification.
Is the Stage I for the 04 PT Turbo Lite with automatic tranny simply the PCM? No injector changes[:I]

If so I can handle that [?]

[Mike-in-Orange]

quote:PTCumming Posted - 02/27/2004 : 10:08:44 PM
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I need some clairification.
Is the Stage I for the 04 PT Turbo Lite with automatic tranny simply the PCM? No injector changes

If so I can handle that

You are correct. Stage 1 for either 04 turbo motor, GT or Lite, is the PCM only as both already have the injectors that came with S1 for the 03s. Install is like stupid easy - if I can do it anybody can. [)]

[SDTurbo]

Actually the SD stands for South Dakota. I wish it was San Diego!! As far as how my dealership handles mods I believe they are very lenient (sp).

[Mike-in-Orange]

quote: Actually the SD stands for South Dakota. I wish it was San Diego!!

Um, yeah, a bit of a difference. I'm so used to seeing people use SD for the city in Southern California, but since I work in direct mail advertising you'd think I would have made the official state abbreviation connection. But hey, when I'm on this forum I'm not thinking about work, I'm thinking about the PT!

[coolvirus]

quote:You are correct. Stage 1 for either 04 turbo motor, GT or Lite, is the PCM only as both already have the injectors that came with S1 for the 03s. Install is like stupid easy - if I can do it anybody can

Hmmm...this sounds interesting. Pardon my ignorance but what is PCM and where can I find instructions online how to install it?

Edit: What about 03 GT? Is the kit for that model PCM only or does it need the injectors? How much is the stage 1 kit nowadays?

[Mike-in-Orange]

quote:coolvirus Posted - 03/08/2004 : 09:41:58 AM
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Hmmm...this sounds interesting. Pardon my ignorance but what is PCM and where can I find instructions online how to install it?

Edit: What about 03 GT? Is the kit for that model PCM only or does it need the injectors? How much is the stage 1 kit nowadays

The PCM is the computer that controls all sorts of engine control parameters. It's a little black box (literally) mounted to the firewall. You can find the install instructions at the following link - http://www.mopar.com/pdf/7256_PTInstructionSheets.pdf

Stage 1 for an '03 is the PCM and the injectors, so it's a bit more involved to install. You can pick up kits for $350 - $425 depending on how friendly your dealer is and whether you have a manual or auto trans.

[TripleJackInGA]

quote:Originally posted by coolvirus

Hmmm...this sounds interesting. Pardon my ignorance but what is PCM and where can I find instructions online how to install it?

Edit: What about 03 GT? Is the kit for that model PCM only or does it need the injectors? How much is the stage 1 kit nowadays?

The PCM is the Computer. "Powertrain Control Module", which is located on the firewall on the Driver's Side. Instructions come with the Stage kits.
The kit for the 2003 GT requires new injectors too, which come with the PCM, and the kit costs the same as the 2004+ kits without the new injectors.
From what someone said earlier in another thread, the reason is that DCX wanted to use the higher-flow injectors in the original 2003 Turbos, but weren't able to due to supply/manufacturing problems with the vendor.If you try to run a stage kit in a 2003 Turbo, you will have to have the injectors to give it enough flow.

[coolvirus]

Thanks guys.

I checked the Mopar website and the link for the Stage 2 kit is not working so there's no way of knowing how much it is (or going to be. Is it available yet?)

I don't know...stage 1 "estimates" 235HP. Is 10-15HP really worth $500+ (incl. installation)?

[TripleJackInGA]

quote:Originally posted by coolvirus

Thanks guys.

I checked the Mopar website and the link for the Stage 2 kit is not working so there's no way of knowing how much it is (or going to be. Is it available yet?)

I don't know...stage 1 "estimates" 235HP. Is 10-15HP really worth $500+ (incl. installation)?

You can get the Stage 1 kit for well under $400 from most places.I saw it on eBay for $359 just the other day.As for installation, most people can do it themselves, even if you have to do the injectors.I haven't done it on mine yet, but my understanding is that if you can change your own oil, you should be able to do it following the instructions provided.
The 2003 GT was rated at 215 I believe, so going to 235 (and I've heard it's a very conservative estimate) isn't too bad for $359.Think about how many people spend $150 or more on some funky intake pipe and get 5HP or less.
The Stage 2 kit is not yet available.From what I understood, they are now able to order them for the SRT-4 only, and those should be shipping in April, so the logical assumption would be that the Stage 2 kit for the PT would ship within a couple months of the SRT-4 kits. I believe I had heard probably around $800-$900 or so for the PT Stage 2 kit.