"Quick Learn" for STAGE 1 Autostick???

[Gary04GT]

quote:Originally posted by Cal Cruzer
...I "heard" that the dealer can flash the quick learn instead of going out and doing it. Anyone else hear konw of this?

I believe this is correct according to what brngrhd stated previously..."the quicklearn should be done when installing the controller the tech would just hook up the drb3 hit quicklearn the trans will shift through the gears snd learn cvi's. cvi's are clutch volume index it tells the controller how much fluid is needed to apply the clutch. when he is done go beat it all you want..."

[LAF]

Cal,
Where did you get your information? I asked 3-Bar, he did not know, I asked Flight Systems who make the Stage II and they did not know, I asked them when they flashed my Stage I for me as they are only 7 miles down the road. So where did you get this tid bit from? I am happy as hell if it is the truth from someone who knows for sure.

[Mike-in-Orange]

quote:LAF Posted - 05/12/2004 : 4:07:23 PM
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Cal,
Where did you get your information? I asked 3-Bar, he did not know, I asked Flight Systems who make the Stage II and they did not know, I asked them when they flashed my Stage II for me as they are only 7 miles down the road. So where did you get this tid bit from? I am happy as hell if it is the truth from someone who knows for sure.

LAF, take a look at the two posts by brngrhd above. He's a DCX tech so I trust his knowledge of this. Plus, my dealer mentioned the same thing to me but I didn't put much credence in it at the time because everything they told me was bunk. Apparently they knew something at least.

[LAF]

quote:Originally posted by LAF

Cal,
Where did you get your information? I asked 3-Bar, he did not know, I asked Flight Systems who make the Stage I and II and they did not know, I asked them when they flashed my Stage I for me as they are only 7 miles down the road. So where did you get this tid bit from? I am happy as hell if it is the truth from someone who knows for sure.

[LAF]

quote:Originally posted by LAF

Like I said I don't think any DCX Tech is flashing or programing any STAGE I ECM'S! Yes on a stock I can see it. As I said the people who make it, and flashed mine for me could not answer it for me.

[Hudd]

Let's go a little farther with this. I had one of the first Stage One's last year along with the brand X turbo up. Did the quick learn. 15# boost dropping to 12-13. All o.k. till last month. Went to Tempe pulling my trailer and couldn't get over 10# boost period. Haven't done anything, waiting on Stage Two. I have 03 bagged turbo's up pipes, and hope to be getting the 3" exhaust downpipe from maxxfab.
Tired of waiting on Stage Two and want to go ahead with the rest of the installs. If I disconnect battery and drain, then do I need to redo the quick learn? Shouldn't that put my boost back up to 15#? I want to dyno changes so want the 15# boost back first. Does this make sense to anyone? All help appreciated.

[Mike-in-Orange]

Hudd, not sure why you're getting the reduced boost, but doing the tranny quick learn won't bring back or otherwise change your boost levels. Maybe brngrhd will grace us with his wisdom and take a shot at this.

I do know that if you disconnect the battery for a period of time you do not have to redo the quick learn.

[LAF]

Mike how do you KNOW that you do not have to quick learn? I am not trying to aggravate anyone but I don’t want to see mis-information out there. As I said others, an Engineer from DCX (3_bar)and the people who make(Flight Systems) and flashed my Stage I could not answer it, how can you?

[Hudd]

Sorry, I didn't word my questions well. I'm aware the learning process has nothing to do with the boost. Should have ask this way.
1. Will resetting the pcm increase my boost back to 15#?
2. If I reset the pcm, do I have to do the quick learn again?.
Frankly I've read and reread numerous posts on all this and cannot find a definitive answer. Sorry Gary, not trying to hijack the thread, just need help.

[Cal Cruzer]

The PCM is just a computer. Taking away the power source does not mean that everything in the computer is lost. A PCM swap just means that the data was never there in the first place and it has to learn it. I have a jump drive the size of my thumb that can hold 256 megs of data and there are some that hold a lot more. I don't know how much memory the PCM uses but I am sure it can utilize the same tech.

Secondly, from a logical point of view, it would not make sense that every time the dealership has to disconnect a battery cable in the service bay that they would have to do the quick learn. They would have to hire people to do nothing but drive cars and do that all day. Not very productive. This is a "no brainer".