TSB's and Stage upgrade kits

[lip]

Girls/Guys,

What happens when there is a TSB for the engine and you have S1? Can the dealer still upgrade the firmware? Is DC keeping S1 upgraded to solve errors?

I haven't seen this anywhere mentioned and it could prove to be a big problem in the future I think.

Cheers,
LIP

[ptgtcb]

quote:Originally posted by lip

Girls/Guys,

What happens when there is a TSB for the engine and you have S1? Can the dealer still upgrade the firmware? Is DC keeping S1 upgraded to solve errors?

I haven't seen this anywhere mentioned and it could prove to be a big problem in the future I think.

Cheers,
LIP

I asked this question before SI even came out, it fell on deaf ears. I asked the loser engineers/marketing PVO if they were going to support updates for the SI PCM on SRTforums.com and never heard a word, PM's and all, they even deleted a thread one time when I called them on a bunch of issues, remember Dodgetweeker? If you flash the factory update on an SI PCM you will overwrite the SI programming. We are screwed as far as any programming updates after the production date of the SI PCM. The upside is (should be?) that all newer SI PCM's should come with the latest programming, but who knows. I hope someone can prove me wrong.
Maybe we could call flight systems and find out?

Like Kirby has said, "no support"!

[lip]

I'm going to ask in the SRT forums as well...
Yes, no support...crap.

LIP

[Taz_FL]

quote:Originally posted by lip

Girls/Guys,

What happens when there is a TSB for the engine and you have S1? Can the dealer still upgrade the firmware? Is DC keeping S1 upgraded to solve errors?

I haven't seen this anywhere mentioned and it could prove to be a big problem in the future I think.

Cheers,
LIP

OK, pardon my dunb questions, but...whats a TSB?... Technical Service Bullitin... I'm Guessing? And also, what is firmware and when would firmware be upgraded? Also, I'm assuming this is something the dealer would notify you about???

[Mike Radowski]

Inside your PCM is a chip called an EPROM, Electroniclly Programmable Read Only Module. That stores the upgradeable info and as the name implies, the can be "flashed," erased and re-programmed electronically with new info. If that happens to a Stage 1 PCM it becomes a Stage 0 or stock PCM and you lose all the performance you had.

Hope this helps.

Mike

[MichaelDay]

Mike, you are correct that flashing the Stage 1 module with the standard "dealer" program would return you to a Stage 0. The dealer uses a PROM burner to reprogram the chip.

To be technically correct, EPROM is the abbreviation for Erasable Programmable Read-Only Memory. EEPROM is Electrically Erasable Programmable Read-Only Memory. Typically EEPROM is used in most applications since EPROM uses ultraviolet light to clear the memory prior reprogramming where an electric charge is used to erase the EEPROM memory.

It's hell being an Engineer.

[Mike Radowski]

Yup, Forgot the other "E" Should have remembered, used to use both and even owned an EPROM eraser. Sorry for the error.

Mike