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tpsfoto 19 Sep 2007 08:41 pm

Inexpensive VS High cost Air intake filter conversions
 
OK, I know that most of the time it pays to pay the extra bucks.....but has anybody used the Inexpensive Air intake filter conversions sold on Ebay?
with shipping they are $40.00 vs $175.00 to $240.00 units.
They look the same.....pipe made of chromed metal....& has a similar filter...
Does this pay to get? .... or just keep the Chryser original box?

Item Condition: Brand New
Increase 7-13 HP and 5-10 ft/lb of torque
Mandrel-bent Aluminum Polished piping
Comes with a high quality built washable and reusable Air Filter
All Necessary Hardware included.
MAF Adapter will be automatically included for vehicle which is Required
General intake installation instruction will be included

http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sel...es/Cruiser.jpg

Mean Green 20 Sep 2007 12:11 am

Re: Inexpensive VS High cost Air intake filter conversions
 
Per the dyno of several PT turbos and SRT-4s I've seen you will in reality only gain 2-3 hp and you will lose torque. An open intake sucks hot air and that is not a good thing. Airbox mods, a K&N drop in filter and replacing the factory very restrictive turbo to airbox hose is a good thing. Also that pic they show is of a non turbo PT.

CREWZIN 20 Sep 2007 06:41 am

Re: Inexpensive VS High cost Air intake filter conversions
 
While it's true, in the non-turbo, that the open filter will suck some hot air from the engine, it's still (IMHO) better than the stock system in allowing more air into the throttle body which helped in standing start take-offs and eliminating the hesitation. Plus it sounds Grrrrrrrrrrrrate !!! :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...wIntake005.jpg

tpsfoto 20 Sep 2007 07:28 am

Re: Inexpensive VS High cost Air intake filter conversions
 
But has anybody bought & used these "cheapie" units???
& does this conversion void the new car's warranty?

Hooligan 20 Sep 2007 12:31 pm

Re: Inexpensive VS High cost Air intake filter conversions
 
The only way I can see that it would change the price from cheap to expensive is the kind, type of filter. The intake pipe wouldn't make that much difference unless the cheap one is plastic.

I purchased one from Air Force One and paid about $150. Remember you get what you pay for. Cheap is Cheap!!!

Mean Green 21 Sep 2007 01:41 am

Re: Inexpensive VS High cost Air intake filter conversions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CREWZIN (Post 218985)
While it's true, in the non-turbo, that the open filter will suck some hot air from the engine, it's still (IMHO) better than the stock system in allowing more air into the throttle body which helped in standing start take-offs and eliminating the hesitation. Plus it sounds Grrrrrrrrrrrrate !!! :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...wIntake005.jpg

You get the same thing with a K&N drop in filter in the airbox and you don't suck hot engine air. Been there both ways and I got rid of the intake and went drop in. :cool:

CREWZIN 21 Sep 2007 06:58 am

Re: Inexpensive VS High cost Air intake filter conversions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mean Green (Post 219015)
You get the same thing with a K&N drop in filter in the airbox and you don't suck hot engine air.

But it doesn't look as good as any of the aftermarket filter systems. :D I don't care how much hot air it's sucking in, I can keep up with 99% of the traffic on the streets. Lets face it, the non-turbo isn't a speed demon, and unless you spend a couple thousand for a turbo or supercharger it's always going to stay that way. It's great around town and long trips (just got back from PT's in Paradise, 1500 miles round trip). Worrying about a little hot air and losing 2-3 hp is meaningless.

Mean Green 21 Sep 2007 12:44 pm

Re: Inexpensive VS High cost Air intake filter conversions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CREWZIN (Post 219016)
But it doesn't look as good as any of the aftermarket filter systems. :D I don't care how much hot air it's sucking in, I can keep up with 99% of the traffic on the streets. Lets face it, the non-turbo isn't a speed demon, and unless you spend a couple thousand for a turbo or supercharger it's always going to stay that way. It's great around town and long trips (just got back from PT's in Paradise, 1500 miles round trip). Worrying about a little hot air and losing 2-3 hp is meaningless.

Your intake does look awesome. :cool: You are right about the na PT. When I drive my wife's I usually start passing a 1/2 mile back so I can get up some speed and get around the car I am passing. :D

Qman 21 Sep 2007 01:51 pm

Re: Inexpensive VS High cost Air intake filter conversions
 
Confirming you got a GT, right?

If so take a look at the below PTCrew thread in regards to the AMX1397TTAB:
PTCrew.com - Learn it or Burn it.

Mean Green 21 Sep 2007 02:10 pm

Re: Inexpensive VS High cost Air intake filter conversions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Qman (Post 219025)
Confirming you got a GT, right?

If so take a look at the below PTCrew thread in regards to the AMX1397TTAB:
PTCrew.com - Learn it or Burn it.


I've seen as much as 19 lbs/ft of torque lost by a PT turbo on the dyno with an open hot air intake. That is a lot of torque to lose. I've never seen a dyno of a non turbo PT with a hot air intake, but losing at least 10 lbs/ft of torque would not surprise me. That, for me, would be too much torque to lose for a car that is already slow to get up to speed. :eek:


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