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Old 06 Aug 2009, 08:07 pm
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Ok so driving car down the road and it spits sputter and dies....RPMs go crazy at the same time. Oil light, check engine light come on. Chack with scanner and come up with Camshaft position sensor, ignition control, engine speed sensor, and tranny mang. I cleared the codes and checked the Timing belt thinking that went. No go looks good. I have 60 psi @ fuel and i have spark. When i got it home and let it sit for a week it fired right off and than dies....started up again and does same thing..get progressivly worse(not running as long) Now i can crank and crank but will not even pop. Camshaft position sensor code is the only one i am getting. Replaced that part and it still will not start. Anybody have any ideas?!?! Any help is great!!!!!!!!!! Thank you!!!
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Old 06 Aug 2009, 08:58 pm
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Welcome to the forum.

What's the history of the car? year, gt or n/a? mileage? That sort of thing.

My first instinct, (without being there) would be a PCM problem because of all of the sensor codes thrown or a tranmission problem. Was the car kicking at all when you were accelerate or letting off the gas?
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The timing belt may have jumped a tooth or 2...
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The timing belt may have jumped a tooth or 2...
That was my thinking too.
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Old 07 Aug 2009, 07:22 am
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Car is a 01 with 150k on it. non-turbo. Tranny took a dump 2 months ago and put a used one in with 110k on it. The belt looked good...i turned it all over by hand and all the teeth looked fine. It did run after i first looked at belt....it would start and run untill i took my foot off the brake than it would die. my thinking was safty neutral switch. now it wont evan fire when it cranks. I thought about PCM as well but hopeing its not!!!!!

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Old 07 Aug 2009, 07:58 am
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Trace the wiring from the CKP all the way round the back of the engine. There's a few of us that had the wiring burnt and wires separate so no signals would get through to the computer.

Other thoughts would be to use a scanner to help pinpoint what's wrong. A lot better than just guessing at the problem.

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Old 08 Aug 2009, 10:44 pm
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ok replaced camshaft position sensor,plugs,and coil pack. Runs till i give it some gas(put a load on it) and than it spits and sputters and wants to die. If i leave it in park i can rev it up and its fine. Do i try to replace the crankshaft postion sensor also? ecm? still comeing up with code 1391
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Old 09 Aug 2009, 09:16 am
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You can just keep throwing parts at it. A scanner could have narrowed it down for you. You did check the wiring from the Camshaft sensor, right? The Crankshaft sensor is located behind the engine above the oil filter. Check those wires also.

As a forewarning, some owners have replaced the camshaft sensor with an after market part form Auto Zone or other store and still had the original problem. Replacing the sensor from the dealer (yes it does cost more) solved the problem.
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ok...still throwing money at this problem!! Using a scan tool i am getting code 1391 which is telling me: Manufacture controlled ignition system. So when i look that up online its saying that its not reading the ckp (crankshaft) or the camshaft... correct? So i have replaced the crankshaft sensor, the camshaft sensor twice (aftermarket not dealer) plugs (gapped at .040) and coil. All wires look good(non burt/pinched) The car crank and cranks and will start. runs for a couple of mins and than stutters and dies @ idel. In park if i reve it up it stutters before it does rev up. If no one else has any ideas i'm taking it to the shop this week!!!!
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