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Old 28 Apr 2002, 09:43 pm
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I'm looking to do a modest brake upgrade.

Without going the Wilwood route at this time http://www.wilwood.com/products/kits...erbk/index.asp, I was thinking of upgrading the front/rear rotors... with sexy results (thanks Homer J. Simpson). But I want more than just drilled and plated OEM pieces.

I talked with the folks at Baer Brakes about their EradiSpeed rotors http://www.eradispeed.com/eradispeed00.shtm. The story behind these things is both the technical merit of the rotor design as well as the rust-resistant coating (sexy results!)

Their catalog lists the PT as a candidate but, per Baer, there is not enough demand to warrant production.<img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle>

Who's interested? Contact Baer. BTW - These will fit stock rims!!

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Old 13 Jun 2002, 07:53 am
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Moss Motors carries a similar rotor, cross-drilled and slotted, for the front and rears for the PT. And PT CruiserMart carries both the cross-drilled and powerslot rotors. Like to see more choices, but productions runs are expensive and a minimum run would be typically 400 units.

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Old 27 Jun 2002, 07:27 pm
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Stephen,

When it comes to brakes. There really is no moderate upgrade other then cross drilled/slotted rotors. As you said the ERADISPEEDS are unique by design. There is also DBA, Brembo, Stoptech, Power Stop. If you really search the net you can find some wild custom rotors that are used in road racing, SENECA makes a clover leaf design. But I am not going to pay the money $$$$ for outright custom rotors. You could just put on some Stainless Steel brake lines on. That alone you will get results. You talked about the WILDWOOD setup. Actually they are very reasonable in price with what all you get, calipers, lines and rotors. I've seen it for $620.00 from Summit racing. You also have to consider supply and demand. Not everybody is taking a PT cruisers and using it in a SCCA,ASA, sactioned type races around the country. Thats how allot of this stuff bleeds down to us, the consumer. If though your in the just the for LOOK department. Brakes are not the place to mess with. I have seen the results from the rice burner community go with just a look, and have seen the the damage.

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Old 18 Aug 2002, 06:20 am
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when i saw this post i developed a nervous twitch.
ive spent the last ten months and a bit of money looking for and researching brake upgrades ,also got ripped off for 2.000.00 in the process,which almost ended the quest ,then , by accident i found a co. thats been around 32 years building brake systems.
well, like everyone else they dont make a compleate setup for the pt ,they didnt make anything for the pt,untill now.
ill start at the begining, i have an 01 base model, [the better to modify my dear] with drums on the rear.i wanted to find a rear drum to disc kit ,which i was directed to by this very site[wycoff chrysler parts] thirteen hundred bucks and it s all oem parts that you would need if you were starting with nothing back there , so you get alot of stuff you already have ,but ,what can you do? and i did try the junk yard route,i mean if you want to know about pt brakes ,ask me , i really did end up with quite an education, as i said ,i researched and obcessed and researched this thing.
i will get to the best part here pretty quick and spare you the gorry details of the full ten months.
willwood makes a front only kit [rotors ,calipers, stainless lines etc] and they will supply a set of replacement rear rotors w/ parking drum. but when i tried to purchace a set of rear calipers ,they wouldnt do it for fear they would lock up and i would kill myself and other unpleasent stuff. but a place called hemicruiser said they could do it with willwood parts no problem ,they said they did it all the time,a compleat setup from the master cylinder down to the brake pedal.well, remember the part where isaid i got ripped off for 2.000.00 . well, that was it . for the record,wilwood had nothing to do with that ,hell, they didnt even know that the co.[what a joke] that told me they did it all the time wasw a wilwood dealer.
the rest of the companys i contacted [Baer ,Brembo , PM , on and on etc .pretty much said the same thing , and i did beg and plead.
so if your looking to upgrade your fourwheeled disc pt your coverd,wilwood makes a decent squeeky set up ,[road in a wilwood equiped pt , can still hear em] oh yeah, theres a place in longbeach ca.,racetech, that will engineer you a set if you drop your car off and its 6.000.00 bucks just for the front,to start.
those cloverleaf looking rotors someone mentioned look awsome on my pt ,and ive got the pics to prove it ,if someone could just help me with how to get em on the site.but im geting ahead of myself, i gave it one last shot and called a co i found by accident when i wasn't even looking. they were wounderful and invited me down,there about 60 miles from me,i was there.
to cut to the chase , it was no problem for them to pull a couple of rotors off the shelf and in a couple of trys they had a perfect fit,now this is for rotors ,crossdrilled or not,i went with the x-drilled, billit 4 piston calipers,polished of coarse steel or kevlar lines and a choise of pads.
for the back we were, notice how i said "we" they made the whole experience feel that way. they were going to see what they could do with my 90 pounds of oem rear pt brake parts but thestock stuff would have required much modifacation and engineering,so , theyfound a rearhat,did i mention that these are a true modular racing type brake i mean billit hats with replacible bolt on rotors very trick,well, the rear parking drum type brake is retained as the happen to have a hat that works perfectly and is the same demnsionsas the oem parking brake set up,and the rotor that bolts up is the same diameter as the front and uses the same 4 piston polished caliper ,they whipped up a billet machined caliper locating bracket thet bolts up to the rear mounting points .
we did use the new disc hubs that came with the wycoff kit but they will be supplieing these parts in there kit ,yes the first and only compleate preformance kit for the pt,but you will have to email me or wait a few days,yes only days, for there name and number ,as they have asked me not to spread it around too much, right away, as they dont rea
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Old 20 Aug 2002, 07:28 pm
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Mab,

You sure went through alot of trouble to get sum rotors. No offense , But 6 grand? But to each his own. As far as that company, it would be cool if you could post them up as well as the pictures. I know its scary sometimes on what some of these vendors will do for "your" money, some good, some bad.

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Old 25 Aug 2002, 12:28 pm
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i didnt spend six grand for rotors,isaid,race tech in long beach ca. will engineer a set for anything using brembo componets. and the co. that has those trick wavy rotors and the billit calipers is the"brake man " in camario ca.
how do you get pics on here ? you need to see these

ill email pics of the brake setup to anyone who asks me ,right now!!!
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Old 28 Aug 2002, 11:58 am
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MAB sent me some pics last night. The best way to describe these brakes is EXOTIC. I haven't even seen these on the higher-end cars.<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> I applaud him for following through on truly custom work.

MAB, do these manufacturers have plans for kits? I think it's great that they worked with you to turn your vision into reality. Now that's customer service.

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Old 29 Aug 2002, 03:42 pm
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www.thebrakeman.com

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Old 31 Aug 2002, 08:54 am
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thanks, thanks alot,thank you very much
yes ,exotic is a perfect description of these babies.
they look like somthing you might see while wandering around the frankfurt auto show,or on some f1 race job under development but looks very much at home on the pt cruiser,sort of lends its self to that retro but modern vibe, classic style modern engineering, very cool . but you know how long it takes for exotic race technology to trickle down to street vehicles and whenever you see or hear about some new model or tricked out part at frankfurt ,paris,or even the sema show, you never see em ,that stuff hardly ever makes it past being an engineerig excersize. not this time its here ,right now and its all ours....haha haha haha haha ha,engineerd for the pt cruiser from the ground up.
if you saw my other post about searching in vain for a co that had em or would make em ,i found out that the pt cruiser crowd wasnt interested in high performance high stylin ,breaks for there rides cause we're wussys and our upgrades are mostly cosmetic, why would we need affordable,ultra high performace,race style fast pad changing user friendly ,streetable racing brakes on our pt cruisers when we're only about LOOKING FAST HMMMM ?
the only compleat kit w/4 wheelrotors ,polished billit calipers replacment mounting brackets ,pads,lines etc.for the pt cruiser,
and its better lookingthen anything the formentioned companys have for the vehicles they do make them for,even the honda zombies are going to be jelous,haha hahahaha ha haha hahaha
www.thebrakeman.com or email eric at ...thebrakeman@hotmail co
a tip of the hat to steveen r, you know how to get ahold of me write for my home ph, #
i can just here it now ,"you know those cute little pt cruisers, well, they do stop incredibly fast but those brakes are just way to "EXOTIC'' looking.
mab


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Old 31 Aug 2002, 12:08 pm
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I don't want to rain on anybodys parade but there isn't much of a maket fo a real race type setup for a PT Cruiser The people who buy PT Cruisers are in general old farts like me who don't see a Cruiser in that light. There is a saying from my generation
( ALL SHOW-NO GO ) The people who make brake stuff don't see the Cruiser as a way to make money. Good luck with your search.
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