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Old 16 Feb 2011, 06:55 pm
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Hello: Please forgive me if this issue has been raised in the past. I'm new to this forum and had to join specifically for this one issue because I feel like I'm the only one with this problem.

I have a 2005 PT Cruiser - just plain jane - no electronic door locks, no special alarm. My key does not have a grey tip on it. It's just a plain key, BUT it has a fob that has 1 button and that button has to be pushed in order to start the car. Well, this fob has broken and the internal gadgetry is broken as well. So, I'm stuck with a great running car, but can't drive it because I'm being held hostage to a key fob.

I've looked on line everywhere, even my local junk yards and no one has heard of this key fob. I called a locksmith and they were dumbfounded as well. I called the dealership who informed me that I will have to tow the vehicle to them and they will rekey the vehicle and reprogram another key fob at the cost of $300.00 + towing!!!!

Isn't there a way to just bypass this so my key will work? I've tried the door lock solution, but that doesn't work either. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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Old 16 Feb 2011, 07:27 pm
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Did you buy it new? Cause the only fob a plain jane 05 could have is for the hatch since I think even the plain jane models had the push button release for the hatch.

I wonder if it is an aftermarket "kill switch" you have to disarm before you can start the car. That might explain why no one has ever heard of this fob for the PT. Cause if you have the chip key 01-05 you don't even need the fob just the keys to start the car, been there done that and paid to have them replaced. The dealer is quoting pricing for the OEM keys and Fobs and programming, its about a $100 to have a set programmed, but you don't have a chip key.

I would check under the hood to see if you have extra power running off the battery, that would be a first place, aka easy place to see if you have extra electronics under the hood. Then if it is, hrm.. See if you can find a mobile alarm installer that could come over and at least comfirm if this is the case and what the fix could cost. Or just rip it out totally. Which is what I would do, then just install a LoJack, a very subtle system that doesn't kill your car like this.

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Old 16 Feb 2011, 07:58 pm
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if you could, take a picture of the fob and post it here. i've googled one button remotes but without seeing it we have no way of knowing which one you have.
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Old 16 Feb 2011, 08:18 pm
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Thanks for the reply. Yes, I bought the car brand new and I don't have a fob for the hatch. I have to manually open the hatch with the key.

Also, don't have a "chip" key. My keys are plain keys of which I can open the car doors with and the hatch, but the key won't start the car unless this 1 button is pushed on the FOB. I don't have any other power or electronics running off the battery.

I remember the dealership giving me an "alarm relay" but I can't remember what that was for.

I really don't need any alarm system on this vehicle. There is nothing in it to steal so I was kind of just trying to bypass this mess.

Thanks.
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Old 16 Feb 2011, 09:04 pm
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yeah I would bet it was an aftermarket "dealer installed option", probably a kill switch.

If you can pull out all your documenatation when you bought the car, if the dealer installed some extra stuff they had to include the paperwork of it. You might find what it is, how to kill and get your car running. Or at least give a alarm installer/repair guys a clue about what's going on.
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Old 16 Feb 2011, 09:11 pm
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The dealer and the locksmith were dumbfounded because, to my knowledge, there has never been a PT that didn't have a transponder headed key to start the car.

A few years ago, I worked evenings and weekends for a local locksmith. We did among other things, all of the AAA calls in the area, which usually added up to over 100 calls per week. As you can imagine the money was great, but I had no life, so I stopped after a year or so. I've opened, replaced ignition switches and/or made keys for a few thousand cars. That being said, what you're asking for is a way to "BYPASS" the system that has nothing to do with protecting the contents of your car. It has EVERYTHING to do with keeping your car from being stolen. In other words you're asking us, on line, for you and everyone else on the internet to read, for a way to steal a pt cruiser. I think I'm feeling a "slight tug on my right leg". I'm not touching this.

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Old 16 Feb 2011, 09:20 pm
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I've been trying to attach a photo but I can't get the actual photo in the message. It's in the attachments if you can open it from there.
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Old 16 Feb 2011, 09:25 pm
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That looks like an aftermarket remote to me.
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Old 16 Feb 2011, 09:28 pm
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Oh, gosh no, I'm not implying that I want anyone to steal my car. I guess I'm old school. I have several older vehicles that you just use a key and turn the engine on. Of course, you lock your doors to prevent it from being stolen, but I live in a very safe city and vehicle theft is not a big crime here. So, ok, if I don't bypass it, how can I get another one of these FOBs without having to go to the dealership and have everything rekeyed and redone? I would think there would be a lot of after market places to purchase one?

And believe me, my PT is just a plain jane. There is nothing added on by the dealership, nothing extra in paperwork, nothing under the hood. I can't even find any thing about this in my owner's manual.

I was just curious if anyone else had this specific issue.
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Old 16 Feb 2011, 09:44 pm
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Welcome Mother. What you have is a aftermarket key alarm system. IF the dealer is still in business, the service people should be able to tell you how to bypass the system and also how to get a new key. IF you still have the original paper work you received when you bought the car, that "alarm relay" you spoke of should be listed on the paper.
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