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Old 25 Mar 2011, 09:57 pm
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Hello everyone. I'm Tom and I live in the Bay Area. I have a 01 Touring Edition that I am trying to keep alive. Quite a few times this site has helped me keep my car on the road. Figured I better introduce myself since a major problem has popped up.

While driving today on the freeway the motor simply lost power. No stuttering or other problems...just seems like the coil turned itself off.

Within the last 8 months or so I replaced all the sensors. During the last month I replaced the plugs, wires, and coil.

After getting the car home I bench tested the coil and it seems ok. I thought my problem might be a broken timing belt, but from where I could actually touch it it seemed to be tight on the pulleys (behind the generator). All electrical connectors were tight. The battery has a full charge and the gas tank is full.

One thing I tried was jumping a plug wire to ground but I did not get a spark while the motor cranked.

I'm gonna be searching this site to see if anyone else has had the same problem. In the meantime if anyone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it. Thanks.

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Old 25 Mar 2011, 10:04 pm
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...forgot to mention...

No error codes.
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Old 26 Mar 2011, 07:18 am
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Tom,
What kind of mileage are we talking about?
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Old 26 Mar 2011, 12:31 pm
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It has 177,000miles on it. I believe that the timing belt has about 50,000 miles on it. I'm not ruling out the timing belt, I just don't want to start tearing it down until I rule out other potential problems.

The car was running fine before it lost power. The motor didn't sputter at all when it died.

The fuel injectors were tested 3-4 weeks ago, one was replaced.
I can hear the fuel pump pressuring up when I turn the key.
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Old 26 Mar 2011, 12:41 pm
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No codes should rule out the Camshaft or Crankshaft sensors but I'm hesitant to say it's not one of those. They would also stop the spark. But I know personally when the Camshaft sensor goes bad you come to a stop real fast. I don't think there's a way of testing either sensor without hooking it up to an OBDII scanner.
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Old 26 Mar 2011, 12:53 pm
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They seem to be in the same category as spark plugs;
jut replace periodically.
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Old 26 Mar 2011, 01:06 pm
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OK I'll pick up the cam and crank sensors today and give them a try.
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Old 26 Mar 2011, 01:47 pm
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One more thing. It's been proven time and time again that the PT doesn't like after market (store bought) sensors so it would be wise to pick them up at the dealers. it cost a little more but you know they'll be good.
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Old 26 Mar 2011, 01:54 pm
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Or use Standard Motor Products- Their top shelf stuff
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Old 30 Mar 2011, 04:45 pm
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I first tried the cam sensor since it didn't involve me climbing under the car. It didn't help.

A couple days later I jacked the car up and crawled under. I found a bunch of wires that had worn thru after rubbing up against the passenger-side axle. I repaired them and tried to fire up the car. Still dead.

I then pulled the crank sensor and made a trip to pick up a new one. I did an ohms test on both sensors and they did not match. I then knew that the old crank sensor got fried. The new sensor did the trick, the car fired right up like nothing had ever happened to it.

I don't know which brand of sensor I got. It came from Auto Zone. I bought that one because I only had $70 to spend, and it came with a 2 year warranty.

Thanks to everyone here for the advice.


note: even though there were no error codes I suspected a bad crank shaft sensor since the tach didn't move when I cranked it over.

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